Talk:Alton Brown
IMDB is a wiki for screen appearances. Most of their information is added by anonymous users, like on most wikis, and they do not claim that their information has any guarantee of accuracy. In fact their description page explains that that this system allows errors to creep in. IMDB should not be used as a reference. David Finn 01:24, 13 May 2011 (CDT)
By the way, I am not saying the information in this article is inaccurate or should be removed. I just mean that IMDB shouldn't be cited for the information. It could be replaced with a different citation or, since it is unquestionably true, even left without citation. David Finn 07:10, 13 May 2011 (CDT)
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David you seemed to ignore the local news coverage offered in the list of references:
Alton Brown ending Food Network’s ‘Good Eats’ after 249 episodes
3:55 pm May 12, 2011, by Rodney Ho CREDIT: AP
CREDIT: AP
Marietta food guru Alton Brown announced yesterday that after 249 episodes, he is shutting down “Good Eats,” a Food Network staple since 1999.
Beau Benton, his spokesman, confirmed that “Good Eats” will no longer be a regular series though Brown does plan three one-hour specials this year. He said Brown was not available for interviews.
Brown’s “Good Eats” has been a standard dish on Food Network’s menu for years, frequently in prime time. A fast-paced, intricately-created concoction, the show provides viewers with food history, cooking tips and oddball trivia on a single topic in Brown’s signature light-hearted and frequently sardonic tone. Over nearly 250 episodes, he chewed on almost every food subject there is, be it olives, steak or bouillabaisse. With some common staples like pasta or eggs, he’s done multiple episodes. And he’d hire local actors to play goofy parts.
One of those actors, Vickie Eng, who played the mysterious W character on about 30 episodes, said Brown put “blood, sweat and tears” into the show as director, writer and star. Her favorite moment was dangling from the ceiling Tom Cruise/”Mission Impossible” style for an episode on oysters.
Bobby Flay, another Food Network staple, said in an interview yesterday that he admires Brown for his “encyclopedic knowledge” of food and how he’s able to leverage that in multiple arenas.
Brown owns a 15,000-square-foot studio in Atlanta where he has shot “Good Eats.” Much of his staff and crew has been with him for years, a testament to his good works as a boss. “Everybody there is like family,” Eng said.
The Welch’s spokesman and author recently re-signed a new contract with Food Network and has an entrenched job with “Iron Chef” and its various incarnations. Undoubtedly, he has another show idea in his fridge.
The source is from an Atlanta newspaper and fed through the AP. This is a good source.
The IMDB offered a standard disclaimer. The IMDB started from Usenet, if I remember right, and is now owned by Amazon. As Amazon is a respected company, known for being a good Netzien, I suspect the information found within its database will be relatively accurate.
As this is a media story using IMDB as a starting point for a stub that you or any Citizen could expand is appropriate. Other sources you might want to check include Advertising Age. As this article is marked as a stub there is absolutely nothing wrong with how it's written or sourced. Stubs are meant to be expanded and are a WIP. David I am sure you realize this as you have vast experience with wikis.
Finally, David, you do not seem to realize this is a volunteer outfit and none of our paid to write here. We contribute what we can when we can. I am sorry you do not realize that this is a volunteer organization and you can not demand volunteers to do more than they wish. The article will be written and expanded when I have time unless some else, perhaps you, decide to add to it. As a reminder we are all volunteers who give what little time we have to make Citizendium a better place. Mary Ash 08:45, 13 May 2011 (CDT)
- Um, no, I didn't ignore the other reference, which isn't from IMDB, I was simply offering my opinions on IMDB. I also stressed that I didn't doubt the accuracy of the article, and I still don't, so the entire first half of your message is irrelevant.
- I was commenting on IMDB. Did you read the IMDB disclaimer? They get most of their content from regular citizens, who have gotten most of that content from news articles. This is an encyclopedia. We shouldn't be citing other encyclopedias, we should be providing citations to where they got their information.
- You have already provided a good citation, so why do we need the IMDB one? I wasn't giving you an example citation in place of the fine one you have provided above, I was just showing you an example of a better source than the IMDB one.
- Mary, when I edit articles that you are working on you often revert me. I thought rather than change the reference I would engage in discussion about it here, which hasn't gone too well either. I am quite aware that this is a voluntary organisation, and no-one is expected to do anything, but at a bare minimum they might be expected to be able to discuss matters of content without always making it a discussion about other Citizens and their attitudes. David Finn 09:57, 13 May 2011 (CDT)
Rolled back to reflect IMDB
Rolled back to reflect the IMDB. As I have a degree in English/Communications I would consider qualifications capable of determining this as an appropriate source. If a journalism/media editor would like to review this I would welcome it. Since I am one of the few journalism authors listed here, and probably your only one, good luck. The IDMD is a respected source. Enough said. Mary Ash 12:50, 14 May 2011 (CDT)