Talk:Singer-songwriter

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 Definition:  Performers who write the lyrics and compose the music for the majority of the songs they perform, often as soloists. [d] [e]
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Joannie Phonie

I'd have to research it (I have all her first 10 albums or so), but I don't *think* she did much songwriting until later in her career -- when, to my ears, she became unlistenable to. Almost *all* of her early stuff was either genuine Anglo-folk, Appal. mountain, or old-time Carter Family-type country. Plus, around 1970, real Nashville country, which she did *beautifully*. If it weren't for her politics, she could have been another Dolly Parton.... I know there was a book a couple of years ago about her romance with B.D. -- is there evidence in there about her early song-writing? Hayford Peirce 13:31, 29 February 2008 (CST)

That was a brainpuncture on my part. Of course she was the early Dylan songbook. Out she comes immediately (blushing) - Ro Thorpe 13:39, 29 February 2008 (CST)

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I started tweaking this. I'm afraid you'll never get me to agree that the term applies more to females than to males--it doesn't for my generation, those who got 'into' popular folk singers in the early 80's--notwithstanding that they were older than we were--and the article text doesn't support the statement.

Someone like Carole King--popular in the seventies--doesn't belong in with oldies like Hank Williams, but I couldn't think of a good rewrite on the spur of the mo.

Before we end up with an internal list (oh, I hate that!) can we decide whether lists of singer-songwriters should be in Related Articles or Catalogues?

Aleta Curry 22:14, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

In a catalog(ue), as per the http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/French_words_in_English/Catalogs that Rheaux and I have been doing. At least if you (or others) start adding a *lot* more names. I think the article as it stands right now, mentioning a dozen or so, is fine. I don't think we want catalogs for trivial numbers of items. Hayford Peirce 22:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, I ask because Dr S is forever telling me that there is a diff between true catalogs--oh, all right--sans 'ue' if you must--and related articles, which is what a list is.
Oh, I agree, in relation to how things stand now. My WP experience is that when people read articles with a couple of examples, they almost invariably add a few more, next thing the 'article' is really 'stub with long list'.
My own hit parade would include several names not mentioned. "Singer-songwriter" to me means James Taylor and Harry Chapin and *how* do you leave out a mention of the great Stevie Wonder or Paul Simon (or Paul Stookey for that matter or Peter Yarrow)--see what I mean?
Aleta Curry 01:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
There would surely be enough for a catalog, though I really fail to see the difference between that and a list of related articles - that's what a catalog is, isn't it? Except that it has its own existence independently, and is not just an appendage, I suppose that's it. Wikipedia has an example of what, I think, we are trying to avoid, an article which has a list trying to burst out of it. Good source of names, though! And it also raises the language distinction: I would happily lump Carole Ling and Hank Williams together, but not with Georges Brassens. Ro Thorpe 01:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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