Talk:Singapore English

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SCE as a creole

I have discussed this issue with Anthea Fraser Gupta, a leading expert in creole languages and particularly Singapore Colloquial English. She tells me that there is little evidence that SCE is a creole; rather it's a mixed variety. It never went through a proper pidgin stage. I also contacted Mark Sebba, another well-known creolist, and he didn't support the creole view either. So in the long term I intend to move this page away from making the claim, as found throughout much of the Internet, that SCE is a creole.

Also, I don't want to sound like a crusty old fuddy-duddy, but if you examine the talk page and logs for the Wikipedia version of this page, you'll find that it was mostly written by a 17-year-old who hasn't studied the subject as yet in a higher education institution. Now, don't get me wrong; in many ways it's a nice page, and more power to him for spreading knowledge. But there really is very little evidence for the creolist view. John Stephenson 00:08, 14 February 2007 (CST)


Moved page: Singlish -> Singapore English

As it currently says in the article's introduction, 'Singlish' is not the academic term (some may regard it as slang). I've decided to move it here to cover all the varieties of English in Singapore, all of which are linked on a continuum anyway. Singapore Colloquial English is a bit of a mouthful, and only refers to the most vernacular forms, so I've set that up as a redirect. John Stephenson 00:13, 14 February 2007 (CST)