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== Notice to anyone stopping by ==
This article is an experiment; it might end up getting deleted later, but who knows yet?  It's intended to test a developing policy idea about having multiple articles on the same, or similar, topics; and would thus run sort of alongside [[Language (general)]]. I am avoiding putting up a disambig page yet, because I'm also doing some naming checks within the Linguistics workgroup generally.
Anyway, the point I need to make is, I'd like to take about a week (per [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]]'s suggestion) to be the lead author on this article, while I do an initial mind dump (a very messy process), and after that, I hope to open it up for other collaborators to manipulate in ways they might want to, and we'll see what happens.  In the meantime, John S. has put a whole bunch of sample "lead author" templates there for me to learn from.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 15:38, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
== bullet list of things to work in somehow, maybe; baloney and brainstorming area (everyone else please ignore) ==
* [[Sign_language]]
* [[Writing]], and writing systems
* [[Counting]]
** rope knotting
** semaphones and other signaling systems in technology or transportation
* [[Printing]]
* [[Braille]]
* what the Buddha said about animals understand human gestures and intention from human voices (science now backs this up)
* flowers signaling bees with pheromones
* claims that language makes us crazy (from Taoism?); Gertrude Stein; Eckhart Tolle, etc.
* smoke signals, bonfires, drumming, signaling
** these were long distance communications systems before we had technology for that
* phonemes (linguistics), tokens (compilers) ??
* we get information from icons, logos, avatars, uniforms; are these part of a language?
== It should be retitled  ==
Either '''What Is Language''' (verbs are ALWAYS in caps, no matter how short).
OR
'''What is language''', to go with the prevailing WP/CZ notion that the second and third words in article titles are NOT in caps unless they generally considered to be proper nouns.[[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] ([[User talk:Hayford Peirce|talk]]) 21:56, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
:Hah, I WONDERED wot was gonna be done about this, and wuz gonna email you tomorrow. Now I see that it is a done deal![[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] ([[User talk:Hayford Peirce|talk]]) 01:20, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Looks odd without question mark. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 10:58, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

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Notice to anyone stopping by

This article is an experiment; it might end up getting deleted later, but who knows yet? It's intended to test a developing policy idea about having multiple articles on the same, or similar, topics; and would thus run sort of alongside Language (general). I am avoiding putting up a disambig page yet, because I'm also doing some naming checks within the Linguistics workgroup generally.

Anyway, the point I need to make is, I'd like to take about a week (per John Stephenson's suggestion) to be the lead author on this article, while I do an initial mind dump (a very messy process), and after that, I hope to open it up for other collaborators to manipulate in ways they might want to, and we'll see what happens. In the meantime, John S. has put a whole bunch of sample "lead author" templates there for me to learn from.Pat Palmer (talk) 15:38, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

bullet list of things to work in somehow, maybe; baloney and brainstorming area (everyone else please ignore)

  • Sign_language
  • Writing, and writing systems
  • Counting
    • rope knotting
    • semaphones and other signaling systems in technology or transportation
  • Printing
  • Braille
  • what the Buddha said about animals understand human gestures and intention from human voices (science now backs this up)
  • flowers signaling bees with pheromones
  • claims that language makes us crazy (from Taoism?); Gertrude Stein; Eckhart Tolle, etc.
  • smoke signals, bonfires, drumming, signaling
    • these were long distance communications systems before we had technology for that
  • phonemes (linguistics), tokens (compilers) ??
  • we get information from icons, logos, avatars, uniforms; are these part of a language?

It should be retitled

Either What Is Language (verbs are ALWAYS in caps, no matter how short).

OR

What is language, to go with the prevailing WP/CZ notion that the second and third words in article titles are NOT in caps unless they generally considered to be proper nouns.Hayford Peirce (talk) 21:56, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Hah, I WONDERED wot was gonna be done about this, and wuz gonna email you tomorrow. Now I see that it is a done deal!Hayford Peirce (talk) 01:20, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Looks odd without question mark. Peter Jackson (talk) 10:58, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

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