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New Article Pasted In

I just pasted in the new material several of us have been working on. This includes the Manga article itself plus a sources/explanation page called Manga/About this Article. The sources page contains information about where the article came from (partly, but only partly!) Wikipedia, plus other information.

Comments, suggestions, and changes are most welcome -- but please discuss them here on the talk page before editing the article itself. That way we can all reach agreement about what should and should not be included.

There are some topics and themes that were not addressed -- perhaps many, in fact. But this is an encyclopedia article, not a textbook. I hope that the references will point any interested readers to areas not developed.

The references need a comment. IMO, reference formats should not be changed, for reasons described on the Manga/About this Article page. The bibliography is long, but -- alas for the ego of authors -- although writers want to believe that their work will survive for decades for its brilliant insights, for its subtle and keen logic, and for its compelling prose, many articles like this are valuable primarily for their bibliographies. So the bibliography is long -- not complete; no one could create such a bibliography -- but comprehensive enough for our purposes.

Thanks to everyone who gave help and assistance!

Timothy Perper 07:44, 10 October 2008 (CDT)

The way to stop people editing the article is to get it approved. Approved articles have a locked version and a draft version. It seems unreasonable to ask people not to edit the article in its current form, so much so, that I have gone ahead and removed that request from the header. Trust cititzendium authors to approach editing it in a constructive way. I'm sure you we be happy with the result. Chris Day 09:05, 10 October 2008 (CDT)

Huh? I didn't say anything about preventing people from editing the article or wanting it locked against edits. I think you've missed my point completely...

The point is not to stop people from editing. The point is to get people to discuss what they want to change before plunging in and deleting things. Discussion is better than making random changes and increasing the general tension level. Here's what I wrote and you removed (without discussion, may I add?):

Improvements to the article are welcome. However, please do not edit this page directly. Instead, put suggested changes and emendations on the talk page first, where they can be discussed before being included. That way we can avoid degrading the article into chaos.

Not an unreasonable request, I'd think. And it says nothing like what you seem to think it said.

Timothy Perper 09:41, 10 October 2008 (CDT)

You want people to discuss changes before making edits, right? The key sentence was this one "However, please do not edit this page directly". Maybe I misunderstood that point. All I'm saying is that people will likely come in and make edits they deem to be collaborative. There is little chance they will heed a message at the top, or worse will not bother editing/commenting. Chris Day 10:16, 10 October 2008 (CDT)