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::the libertarians like her a lot-- Alan Greenspan  was a major disciple; however the social conservatives, traditionalists, TR-admirers, dislike her. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 20:33, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
::the libertarians like her a lot-- Alan Greenspan  was a major disciple; however the social conservatives, traditionalists, TR-admirers, dislike her. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 20:33, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Ah, now I get it. Today's conservatives are really dominated by social conservatives, those ones hated by young people like us. I heard Barry Goldwater's daughter/granddaughter/whatever said once on a podcast, that Goldwater probably would have  not able to attend the GOP convention if he was alive today because he leans to be libertarian on certain issues. So sad. [[User:Yi Zhe Wu|Yi Zhe Wu]] 21:20, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Ah, now I get it. Today's conservatives are really dominated by social conservatives, those ones hated by young people like us. I heard Barry Goldwater's daughter/granddaughter/whatever said once on a podcast, that Goldwater probably would have  not able to attend the GOP convention if he was alive today because he leans to be libertarian on certain issues. So sad. [[User:Yi Zhe Wu|Yi Zhe Wu]] 21:20, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Bush tries to bridge the two but was blasted by the social conservatives (nativists in this case) on the immigration issue. The business community is mostly libertarian-GOP and is usually dominant (they wanted the immigration bill), but they lost in this case. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 21:56, 2 July 2007 (CDT)

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From WP?

Hi Richard, thanks for contributing to CZ. Can you do me a favor and point us to the history link showing you are the sole author of material here? Otherwise, we need to keep that little "from WP" box checked. Thanks! —–Stephen Ewen 22:40, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

I dropped most of the stuff from other people. I suggest CZ needs a reasonable policy -- such as 90%. The way Wiki works is that hundreds of people go in and change a word or two here (or a date, if they are malicious). The "one drop of blood" doctrine needs some pretty strong justification, which I have not seen presented.Richard Jensen 01:30, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
(The above conversation was continued at User_talk:Stephen_Ewen#single_drop_of_blood_theory.) Stephen Ewen 02:52, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Ayn Rand

This article only has one mention of Ayn Rand, but I though she was the most eloquent and principled defender of conservatism. What is exactly her status in the conservative movement? Yi Zhe Wu 20:16, 2 July 2007 (CDT)

the libertarians like her a lot-- Alan Greenspan was a major disciple; however the social conservatives, traditionalists, TR-admirers, dislike her. Richard Jensen 20:33, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
Ah, now I get it. Today's conservatives are really dominated by social conservatives, those ones hated by young people like us. I heard Barry Goldwater's daughter/granddaughter/whatever said once on a podcast, that Goldwater probably would have not able to attend the GOP convention if he was alive today because he leans to be libertarian on certain issues. So sad. Yi Zhe Wu 21:20, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
Bush tries to bridge the two but was blasted by the social conservatives (nativists in this case) on the immigration issue. The business community is mostly libertarian-GOP and is usually dominant (they wanted the immigration bill), but they lost in this case. Richard Jensen 21:56, 2 July 2007 (CDT)