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It's a list of roles, so how is it a "delegation of responsibility without a clear devolution of power"?  I agree that a person should really have a significant degree of clearly-defined responsibility--not, of course, ''absolute'' responsibility, because that's inconsistent both with a republic and with the rule of law--but I do not necessarily agree that the person who volunteers necessarily needs to propose a remit.  The "job descriptions" is something I figured we could work on together. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 07:28, 13 February 2008 (CST)
It's a list of roles, so how is it a "delegation of responsibility without a clear devolution of power"?  I agree that a person should really have a significant degree of clearly-defined responsibility--not, of course, ''absolute'' responsibility, because that's inconsistent both with a republic and with the rule of law--but I do not necessarily agree that the person who volunteers necessarily needs to propose a remit.  The "job descriptions" is something I figured we could work on together. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 07:28, 13 February 2008 (CST)
: May a newcomer to Citizendium, but ''not'' a newcomer to the world, make a suggestion? Remember William of Occam: do not multiply entities beyond necessity. The same applies to job titles and roles. Create them only when you really need them. [[User:Timothy Perper|Timothy Perper]] 13:46, 25 September 2008 (CDT)
::That's how I've been thinking; we've talked quite a bit about creating new roles, but we haven't really done so, and that's for the best, I think. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 08:54, 26 September 2008 (CDT)

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Weekly seems excessive. I've never been in an organization in meatspace that required more than monthly. Stephen Ewen 02:27, 9 February 2008 (CST)

Many organizations have regular weekly meetings in which progress is reported. The question is simply: what considerations should determine how often reports are made? --Larry Sanger 14:08, 9 February 2008 (CST)

I think that this looks like a delegation of responsibility without a clear devolution of power. I would suggest, if this is to proceed in a way that might be effective, that anyone interested in any of these roles should a) propose a remit, b) specify what powers are needed to achieve that remit effectively, c) do nothing without a clear acceptance of both. The principle is simple: don't offer or accept responsibility without the necessary ability to exercise it, to do either is a recipe for frustration and dissatisfaction. Gareth Leng 03:27, 13 February 2008 (CST)

It's a list of roles, so how is it a "delegation of responsibility without a clear devolution of power"? I agree that a person should really have a significant degree of clearly-defined responsibility--not, of course, absolute responsibility, because that's inconsistent both with a republic and with the rule of law--but I do not necessarily agree that the person who volunteers necessarily needs to propose a remit. The "job descriptions" is something I figured we could work on together. --Larry Sanger 07:28, 13 February 2008 (CST)

May a newcomer to Citizendium, but not a newcomer to the world, make a suggestion? Remember William of Occam: do not multiply entities beyond necessity. The same applies to job titles and roles. Create them only when you really need them. Timothy Perper 13:46, 25 September 2008 (CDT)
That's how I've been thinking; we've talked quite a bit about creating new roles, but we haven't really done so, and that's for the best, I think. --Larry Sanger 08:54, 26 September 2008 (CDT)