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::Peter: I don't know. My wording simply reflected what was written before. Perhaps the definition and this lead sentence should be changed. The lead sentence is easy: change "last" to "latest". The definition: "The last particle, first proposed by Peter Higgs, in the Standard Model of particle physics which has not been observed." clearly is wrong, and anyway it is silly to use this approach to identify a particle simply by when it was observed. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 16:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC) | ::Peter: I don't know. My wording simply reflected what was written before. Perhaps the definition and this lead sentence should be changed. The lead sentence is easy: change "last" to "latest". The definition: "The last particle, first proposed by Peter Higgs, in the Standard Model of particle physics which has not been observed." clearly is wrong, and anyway it is silly to use this approach to identify a particle simply by when it was observed. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 16:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC) | ||
::I've undertaken to change both intro and definition. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 16:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC) | ::I've undertaken to change both intro and definition. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 16:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC) | ||
== Section on mechanism == | |||
The section [[Higgs boson#The Higgs Mechanism|The Higgs Mechanism]] is opaque to anyone. It doesn't point out the role of the Higgs boson, nor how the formulas contain it. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 19:30, 5 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
I've removed the mathematical obfuscation and substituted a verbal description with a source. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 16:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
The changes made improve the article and help a physicist that is reading the article to understand why the Higgs field and boson is now considered part of the Standard Model. But it still doesn't explain the role of the Higgs boson nor the field. In my opinion, explaining how the formulas contain it would require a textbook on the ElectroWeak interaction. [[User:Edward Lulofs|Edward Lulofs]] 17:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 10:06, 18 September 2020
"The Higgs boson is the last particle in the Standard Model of particle physics to be observed"
- So all the different leptons, quarks, antileptons and antiquarks have been observed? Peter Jackson 16:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Peter: I don't know. My wording simply reflected what was written before. Perhaps the definition and this lead sentence should be changed. The lead sentence is easy: change "last" to "latest". The definition: "The last particle, first proposed by Peter Higgs, in the Standard Model of particle physics which has not been observed." clearly is wrong, and anyway it is silly to use this approach to identify a particle simply by when it was observed. John R. Brews 16:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- I've undertaken to change both intro and definition. John R. Brews 16:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Section on mechanism
The section The Higgs Mechanism is opaque to anyone. It doesn't point out the role of the Higgs boson, nor how the formulas contain it. John R. Brews 19:30, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
I've removed the mathematical obfuscation and substituted a verbal description with a source. John R. Brews 16:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
The changes made improve the article and help a physicist that is reading the article to understand why the Higgs field and boson is now considered part of the Standard Model. But it still doesn't explain the role of the Higgs boson nor the field. In my opinion, explaining how the formulas contain it would require a textbook on the ElectroWeak interaction. Edward Lulofs 17:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)