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== A few thoughts ==
 
I had a few thoughts on how we could brush this article up a little bit. Mind, I am by no stretch of the imagination a Nietzsche scholar or even a philosopher. Here's what I got:
 
*A section on ''The Birth of Tragedy''. ''The Birth of Tragedy'' is famous in its own right (well, sort of), but it's important personally and philosophically.
*A fuller section on Elisabeth F-N and the broader political misappropriation of Nietzsche.
*A discussion on the systematic/unsystematic debate. As it is now, the article briefly states that Nietzsche's thought is unsystematic; but I thought there were a few influential scholars who have argued that Nietzsche's thought is more systematic than commonly assumed: John Richardson's '''Nietzsche's System''', for one, and I thought Reginster's '''Affirmation of Life''' broadly took the view that Nietzche's thought can be made systematic.
*Nietzche's style/literary influences on Nietzsche. It would be interesting and worthwhile, I think, to have some coverage of Nietzsche's position as one of the masters of 19th-century German prose, and it would also be interesting to have some coverage of Nietzsche's relationship to his literary forebears (Goethe, obviously, but also [[Georg Christoph Lichtenberg]]).
*Nietzche and Classics. I don't know how much coverage this should have, and it doesn't seem substantial enough to merit a full article, but it's interesting what a negative response ''The Birth of Tragedy'' received among contemporary Classicists, and the reevaluation the book has had in the 20th century (I'm thinking primarily of Hugh Lloyd-Jones).
 
Maybe this is more of a wish-list than anything else; but maybe there are things here we could get working on. [[User:Brian P. Long|Brian P. Long]] 03:45, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 
:Elizabeth should have her own page.  There's a topical issue here: is this page about Nietzsche the man or Nietzsche the philosophy?  I could see where each of the books and each of the main ideas could have their own pages, a Nietzsche "cluster."  But aren't the works different from the person?  [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 14:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

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A few thoughts

I had a few thoughts on how we could brush this article up a little bit. Mind, I am by no stretch of the imagination a Nietzsche scholar or even a philosopher. Here's what I got:

  • A section on The Birth of Tragedy. The Birth of Tragedy is famous in its own right (well, sort of), but it's important personally and philosophically.
  • A fuller section on Elisabeth F-N and the broader political misappropriation of Nietzsche.
  • A discussion on the systematic/unsystematic debate. As it is now, the article briefly states that Nietzsche's thought is unsystematic; but I thought there were a few influential scholars who have argued that Nietzsche's thought is more systematic than commonly assumed: John Richardson's Nietzsche's System, for one, and I thought Reginster's Affirmation of Life broadly took the view that Nietzche's thought can be made systematic.
  • Nietzche's style/literary influences on Nietzsche. It would be interesting and worthwhile, I think, to have some coverage of Nietzsche's position as one of the masters of 19th-century German prose, and it would also be interesting to have some coverage of Nietzsche's relationship to his literary forebears (Goethe, obviously, but also Georg Christoph Lichtenberg).
  • Nietzche and Classics. I don't know how much coverage this should have, and it doesn't seem substantial enough to merit a full article, but it's interesting what a negative response The Birth of Tragedy received among contemporary Classicists, and the reevaluation the book has had in the 20th century (I'm thinking primarily of Hugh Lloyd-Jones).

Maybe this is more of a wish-list than anything else; but maybe there are things here we could get working on. Brian P. Long 03:45, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Elizabeth should have her own page. There's a topical issue here: is this page about Nietzsche the man or Nietzsche the philosophy? I could see where each of the books and each of the main ideas could have their own pages, a Nietzsche "cluster." But aren't the works different from the person? Russell D. Jones 14:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)