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'''Welcome, Wikipedians and ex-Wikipedians!'''
{{Getting Started}}
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Citizendium welcomes Wikipedia contributors.  Many members of [[Citizendium]] have experience in editing at [[Wikipedia]], and have joined this project to try a different model of content development.  In the past, Citizendium experimented with multiple collaborative models, and not everything was successful.  Please read about [[CZ:About|who we are these days]].


This page will introduce some "dos and don'ts" of the ''Citizendium'' that Wikipedians in particular may have to bear in mind.  You should also read about the [[CZ:We aren't Wikipedia|really big differences]] between the ''Citizendium'' and Wikipedia, and also about [[CZ:how to convert Wikipedia articles to Citizendium articles|how to convert Wikipedia articles to Citizendium articles]].
<big>Please read [[CZ:We aren't Wikipedia|We aren't Wikipedia]]</big>. Many of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies Wikipedia's policies] either do not apply here or have been modified. After that, feel free to contribute [[CZ:Be Bold|boldly]].


Before we get into anything else, first a rule Wikipedians should be very interested to know.  ''Absolutely do not'' simply copy content from Wikipedia here without working on it.  The ''Citizendium'' is not a mirror of Wikipedia.  There's only one sort of exception we've permitted, namely, that a person is the main author, or a main manager, of an article, and does intend (over time) to continue to work on and maintain the article(s) here.  In such a case, you should probably put a note to that effect at the top of the article's talk page; otherwise the article are apt to be deleted.
== Subpages ==
[[CZ:Creating_an_article_with_subpages|Subpages]] are used on all Citizendium articles to expand article content; see our [[CZ:Subpages#List_of_subpage_types|list of subpage types]].  Note how we have replaced "List of" articles with [[CZ:Catalogs|catalogs]].   


== New/unfamiliar practices ==
== How to ask for help ==
Questions can be asked in the [[Forum:Home|Forum]] or from Citizendium's "community managers" or "Sysops".  Our managers and sysops oversee adherence to basic policies, settle ''behavioral'' problems, and address content problems only if there is a violation of policy.  They also review applications and create new accounts.


There are several practices that will be new and unfamiliar to Wikipedians:
== Images ==
''Any'' type of '''open content licensed images''' are allowable and preferred.  Images from '''[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images Wikimedia Commons]''' can be used directly in this wiki.  Images from other image banks must pass [[Help:Images#Images_from_Wikipedia.2C_Wikimedia_Commons.2C_Flickr.2C_Openphoto.net.2C_etc.|a two-pronged test]] ''before'' you upload them to Citizendium. '''Fully copyrighted images''' are allowable in Citizendium ONLY if you place proof of permission in a Permission subpage of the image's talk page and link to it.  Images lacking clear copyright data may be subject to removal.  See [[Help:Images#Copyrights|Images Help on Copyrights]].


* You must check "Content is from Wikipedia?" if any content of an article came from Wikipedia and you aren't the sole author of that content.
==Importing from Wikipedia to Citizendium==
If you wish to import material from Wikipedia, see [[CZ:Article_Mechanics|Article Mechanics]] and [[CZ:How to convert Wikipedia articles to Citizendium articles|How to convert Wikipedia articles to Citizendium articles]].


* Please place [[:Category:CZ Live]] on articles that you have written from scratch, but ''not'' on articles you have copied from Wikipedia, ''unless'' you have made significant changes in at least three different places. Review [[:Category:CZ Live|the definition]] of "live," please.
==And from Citizendium to Wikipedia==
Since Wikipedia changed its license to CC-BY-SA 3.0, it can use material ''from'' Citizendium. A workgroup has been formed there, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Citizendium_Porting WikiProject Citizendium Porting], to coordinate this.


* We should be placing [[CZ:The Article Checklist|The Article Checklist]] on all new articles.  You can help in the effort by participating in [[CZ:The Big Cleanup|The Big Cleanup]].
== Further reading ==
*The Citizendium [[CZ:Policies|Policies]].
*Citizendium's [[CZ:Content Policy|Content Policy]] has changed as of 2024.   
*[[CZ:We aren't Wikipedia|We aren't Wikipedia]]
*[[CZ:How to convert Wikipedia articles to Citizendium articles|How to convert Wikipedia articles to Citizendium articles]]
*[[CZ:Essentials|Essentials]]
*[[CZ:Article mechanics|Article Mechanics]]  


Article approval process
[[Category:Getting Started]]
 
== Behavior ==
 
Behave in a professional manner; we actually take our [[CZ:Professionalism|Professionalism]] policy seriously.  This means, among other things, that personal attacks are not allowed here.  Such attacks may not only be replaced with our <nowiki>{{civil}}</nowiki> template, which reads,
 
:{{civil}}
 
they may also result in a warning or even a ban, depending on the case.
 
Moreover, if you have any complaints to make about other users, no matter how well justified, please don't make them on the wiki.  They will (or should, anyway) be removed by constables and replaced with the <nowiki>{{nocomplaints}}</nowiki> template, which reads:
 
:{{nocomplaints}}
 
The procedure is to write to the Constabulary at constables@citizendium.org and let them take care of the problem.  To take others to task on the wiki is aggressive behavior--"taking the law into your own hands"--and such unpleasantness is the burden of the Constabulary.
 
Wikipedia has a three-revert rule--we don't.  We have a no-unexplained-revert rule--justify any reversion on the talk page.  Reverting, or simply undoing someone else's work, is a very upsetting behavior to other people, and understandably so.  So it definitely requires explanation.  But we simply ''will not'' have edit warring here.  If you disagree with another participant, the first step is to discuss the matter on the talk page; if no satisfactory compromise can be reached, the next step is to ask an editor in the relevant area and with the relevant expertise to adjudicate.  Eventually, we'll have a more sophisticated dispute resolution process, but so far we haven't needed one, simply because we've been pretty good at actually collaborating and compromising.
 
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Notice that we aren't putting contributor-oriented templates, such as Wikipedia's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutrality_templates neutrality templates,] atop our articles.

Latest revision as of 08:36, 31 October 2024

Citizendium Getting Started
Quick Start | About us | Help system | Start a new article | For Wikipedians  


Citizendium welcomes Wikipedia contributors. Many members of Citizendium have experience in editing at Wikipedia, and have joined this project to try a different model of content development. In the past, Citizendium experimented with multiple collaborative models, and not everything was successful. Please read about who we are these days.

Please read We aren't Wikipedia. Many of Wikipedia's policies either do not apply here or have been modified. After that, feel free to contribute boldly.

Subpages

Subpages are used on all Citizendium articles to expand article content; see our list of subpage types. Note how we have replaced "List of" articles with catalogs.

How to ask for help

Questions can be asked in the Forum or from Citizendium's "community managers" or "Sysops". Our managers and sysops oversee adherence to basic policies, settle behavioral problems, and address content problems only if there is a violation of policy. They also review applications and create new accounts.

Images

Any type of open content licensed images are allowable and preferred. Images from Wikimedia Commons can be used directly in this wiki. Images from other image banks must pass a two-pronged test before you upload them to Citizendium. Fully copyrighted images are allowable in Citizendium ONLY if you place proof of permission in a Permission subpage of the image's talk page and link to it. Images lacking clear copyright data may be subject to removal. See Images Help on Copyrights.

Importing from Wikipedia to Citizendium

If you wish to import material from Wikipedia, see Article Mechanics and How to convert Wikipedia articles to Citizendium articles.

And from Citizendium to Wikipedia

Since Wikipedia changed its license to CC-BY-SA 3.0, it can use material from Citizendium. A workgroup has been formed there, WikiProject Citizendium Porting, to coordinate this.

Further reading

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