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This page is meant to collect ideas on how to make CZ better, both in a fundamental or incremental way, with a focus on practical rather than theoretical improvements. We need an overview here, so please do not use more than about 50 words per field and link to other pages (on the forum, or in the CZ or user namespaces) if further information is necessary.
This page is meant to collect ideas on how to make CZ better, both in a fundamental or incremental way, with a focus on practical rather than theoretical improvements. We need an overview here, so please do not use more than about 50 words per field and link to other pages (on the forum, or in the CZ or user namespaces) if further information is necessary.


Please sort by priority (from 5=crucial to 1=nice to have to 0=neutral to -1=counterproductive), and if a problem was solved, move it to a similar table at the bottom of this page.
Please sort by priority (from 5=crucial to 1=nice to have to 0=neutral to -1=counterproductive), and if a problem was solved, move it to [[#Done|the dedicated table]] at the bottom of this page.


==To do==
==To do==
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| align="center" | [[CZ:Wishlist/Establish Relationship with External Organization | No established relationship with external organizations]] || align="center" | 5 ||  align="center" |[[CZ:Wishlist/Potential partners | Potential partners]] ||  align="center" | [[CZ:Wishlist/Trial Partnership | Trial Partnership]]||  align="left" |[[ CZ Talk:Wishlist/Establish Relationship with External Organization | Talk Page]]<br /> [[CZ:Become a Partner]] ||  align="left" |[[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
| align="center" | [[CZ:Wishlist/Establish Relationship with External Organization | No established relationship with external organizations]] || align="center" | 5 ||  align="center" |[[CZ:Wishlist/Potential partners | Potential partners]] ||  align="center" | [[CZ:Wishlist/Trial Partnership | Trial Partnership]]||  align="left" |[[ CZ Talk:Wishlist/Establish Relationship with External Organization | Talk Page]]<br /> [[CZ:Become a Partner]] ||  align="left" |[[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
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|  align="center" | The [[CZ:Healing Arts Workgroup|Healing Arts Workgroup]] currently allows advocates of fringe positions to act as editors.||  align="center" | 4  ||  align="center" |merge it with the [[CZ:Health Sciences Workgroup|Health Sciences Workgroup]] || align="center" | none, though in principle, one could just merge the respective categories of the type [[:Category:Healing Arts Content]] and [[:Category:Health Sciences Content]] ||  align="left" | [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2919.msg24406.html#msg24406 Forum thread]||  align="left" |please add your name here, [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
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|align="center"| WP credit often vanishes ||align="center"| 4 ||align="center"| include in Metadata ||align="center"|  ||align="left"| This would also allow other sources to be credited properly ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]], [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]]||align="left"|20:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)||  
|align="center"| WP credit often vanishes ||align="center"| 4 ||align="center"| include in Metadata ||align="center"|  ||align="left"| This would also allow other sources to be credited properly ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]], [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]]||align="left"|20:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)||  
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|align="center"| Is there a simpler implementation of the subpages mechanism? ||align="center"| 3 ||align="center"| Perhaps by using of namespaces?  ||align="center"|  ||align="left"|  ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] ||align="left"|00:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC) ||  
|align="center"| Is there a simpler implementation of the subpages mechanism? ||align="center"| 3 ||align="center"| Perhaps by using of namespaces?  ||align="center"|  ||align="left"|  ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] ||align="left"|00:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC) ||  
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|align="center"| Obtrusive [[Template:Metadata to finish|requests to edit subpages]] ||align="center"| 3 ||align="center"| restrict to logged-in users, if possible ||align="center"|  ||align="left"|  ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]]||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
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|align="center"| Moving clusters and deleting redirects are likely to leave orphaned pages behind ||align="center"| 3 ||align="center"| Can the move mechanics be improved? ||align="center"|  ||align="left"|  ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] ||align="left"|00:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC) ||  
|align="center"| Moving clusters and deleting redirects are likely to leave orphaned pages behind ||align="center"| 3 ||align="center"| Can the move mechanics be improved? ||align="center"|  ||align="left"|  ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] ||align="left"|00:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC) ||  
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|  align="center" | much of our best content is hidden to occasional visitors, and [[CZ:Article of the Week]] / [[CZ:New Draft of the Week]] require more energy than we seem to have on a permanent basis||  align="center" | 3  ||  align="center" | Display the introductory parts of approved articles on the [[CZ:Welcome Page]] by means of transclusion and random selection (as already practices for [[CZ:Quotes]].|| [[CZ:Article of the Week]] / [[CZ:New Draft of the Week]] as well as [[CZ:Quotes]], all of which have been in operation for a while||  align="left" | [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2712.msg23456.html#msg23456 Forum thread]||  align="left" |[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
|  align="center" | much of our best content is hidden to occasional visitors, and [[CZ:Article of the Week]] / [[Archive:New Draft of the Week]] require more energy than we seem to have on a permanent basis||  align="center" | 3  ||  align="center" | Display the introductory parts of approved articles on the [[CZ:Welcome Page]] by means of transclusion and random selection (as already practices for [[CZ:Quotes]].|| [[CZ:Article of the Week]] / [[Archive:New Draft of the Week]] as well as [[CZ:Quotes]], all of which have been in operation for a while||  align="left" | [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2712.msg23456.html#msg23456 Forum thread]||  align="left" |[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
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|align="center"| Technical approval mechanics: Can it be simplified? ||align="center"| 3 ||align="center"| Can branches of the revision control be used? ||align="center"|  ||align="left"|  ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]]||align="left"|20:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)|| Is copy and paste indeed the best method?
|align="center"| Technical approval mechanics: Can it be simplified? ||align="center"| 3 ||align="center"| Can branches of the revision control be used? ||align="center"|  ||align="left"|  ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]]||align="left"|20:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)|| Is copy and paste indeed the best method?
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|  align="center" | Further information not linked from bottom of page ||  align="center" | 2 ||  align="center" | changing {{tl|Subpages}}||  align="center" | [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Scarborough_Castle&oldid=100561059 a demo] [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Test_articleA demo2]||  align="left" | [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1679.msg23150.html#msg23150 Forum thread]<br />Having additional links at the bottom may also help solve the problem discussed at [[Talk:Economics#Article format section]]. ||  align="left" |[[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]], [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
|  align="center" | Further information not linked from bottom of page ||  align="center" | 2 ||  align="center" | changing {{tl|Subpages}}||  align="center" | [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Scarborough_Castle&oldid=100561059 a demo] [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Test_articleA demo2]||  align="left" | [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1679.msg23150.html#msg23150 Forum thread]<br />Having additional links at the bottom may also help solve the problem discussed at [[Talk:Economics#Article format section]]. ||  align="left" |[[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]], [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
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|align="center"| Every subpage has a talk page ||align="center"| 2 ||align="center"| reduce this to one per cluster ||align="center"| the subpages template always leads to the cluster's talk page, but the "discussion" tab does not ||align="left"| [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Talk:Singer-songwriter/Catalogs&curid=100145483&diff=100628456&oldid=100628451 see this edit summary] ||align="left"|[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ||align="left"|21:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC) ||
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| Printable version contains unneeded material (frame,links) || align="center" |  2 || change layout and content || || "Monobook" and "Modern" print only the content of the page || [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
| Printable version contains unneeded material (frame,links) || align="center" |  2 || change layout and content || || "Monobook" and "Modern" print only the content of the page || [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |Problem description missing
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|align="center"| Content of frame/header/footer: Can it be better organized? ||align="center"| 2 ||align="center"| review, evaluate, improve ||align="center"| ||align="left"| includes some of the other topics ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] ||align="left"|22:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC) ||  
|align="center"| Content of frame/header/footer: Can it be better organized? ||align="center"| 2 ||align="center"| review, evaluate, improve ||align="center"| ||align="left"| includes some of the other topics ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] ||align="left"|22:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC) ||  
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|align="center"| "Did you know?" section on Welcome page ||align="center"| 2 ||align="center"| could be similar to [[CZ:Quotes]] ||align="center"| ||align="center"|  [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,3139.msg28830.html Forum thread] ||align="left"|[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]]||align="left"|13:13, 26 June 2010 (UTC) || align="center" |Problem description incomplete
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|align="center"| No templates for numbered equations ||align="center"| 2 ||align="center"| [[Template:Num-equ|write them up]] ||align="center"| A HTML workaround can be seen at [[Sturm-Liouville theory]], discussed [[Sturm-Liouville theory#Numbered equations|here]] ||align="left"| So much HTML code here on wiki is error-prone ||align="left"|[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]]||align="left"|15:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC) || align="center" |Problem description complete
|align="center"| No templates for numbered equations ||align="center"| 2 ||align="center"| [[Template:Num-equ|write them up]] ||align="center"| A HTML workaround can be seen at [[Sturm-Liouville theory]], discussed [[Sturm-Liouville theory#Numbered equations|here]] ||align="left"| So much HTML code here on wiki is error-prone ||align="left"|[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]]||align="left"|15:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC) || align="center" |Problem description complete
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==Done==
==Done==


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|  align="center" | Confusing message on Lemma pages ||  align="center" | 1 ||  align="center" | change wording on Lemma pages only || align="center" |   ||  align="left" | [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2917.0.html Forum thread] ||  align="left" | [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] || [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Template:Lemma&curid=100091956&diff=100586450&oldid=100462659 Solved]
|  align="center" | The [[CZ:Healing Arts Workgroup|Healing Arts Workgroup]] currently allows advocates of fringe positions to act as editors.||  align="center" | ||  align="center" |merge it with the [[CZ:Health Sciences Workgroup|Health Sciences Workgroup]] || align="center" | none, though in principle, one could just merge the respective categories of the type [[:Category:Healing Arts Content]] and [[:Category:Health Sciences Content]] ||  align="left" | [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2919.msg24406.html#msg24406 Forum thread]||  align="left" |please add your name here, [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="center" |[http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,3606.msg38505.html#msg38505 Solved]
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|align="center"| Obtrusive [[Template:Metadata to finish|requests to edit subpages]] ||align="center"| 3 ||align="center"| restrict to logged-in users, if possible ||align="center"|  ||align="left"|  ||align="left"|[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]]||  align="left"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="left" |[http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=User_talk:Chris_Day&oldid=100631279#Too_many_pop-up__alert_messages_when_starting_a_new_article Solved]
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| align="center" | Confusing message on Lemma pages || align="center" | 1 || align="center" | change wording on Lemma pages only || align="center" |   ||  align="left" | [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2917.0.html Forum thread] ||  align="left" | [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] ||  align="center"| 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before || align="left" |[http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Template:Lemma&curid=100091956&diff=100586450&oldid=100462659 Solved]
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Latest revision as of 04:06, 8 March 2024

This page is meant to collect ideas on how to make CZ better, both in a fundamental or incremental way, with a focus on practical rather than theoretical improvements. We need an overview here, so please do not use more than about 50 words per field and link to other pages (on the forum, or in the CZ or user namespaces) if further information is necessary.

Please sort by priority (from 5=crucial to 1=nice to have to 0=neutral to -1=counterproductive), and if a problem was solved, move it to the dedicated table at the bottom of this page.

To do

Problem Priority Solution Possible trial solution Comments Contact person Date filed Status
default skin is not user-friendly 5 change it can be changed for logged-in users via preferences Forum thread Daniel Mietchen 08:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
The current "Elem Infobox" template has no way for listing properties like IUPAC name, CAS number, molecular mass, boiling point, melting point, density, specific heat, refractive. index, etc. It also has no counterpart for compounds as well as elements. 5 We need a template placing a standard table on main article edit pages that can be used to list/add/delete/revise properties for elements and for compounds. Perhaps one such template for elements and one for compounds. Look at the table I created on the edit page of Water and how it displays on the main article page Look at table I also created on Water/Other Properties for listing more properties, if appropriate. Milton Beychok 21:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC) a test version for such a template can be found at Template:PropList
Better search facilities (even the expert search does not even allow a "*" wildcard) 5 allow wildcards, and, or, etc. Peter Schmitt 01:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
No established relationship with external organizations 5 Potential partners Trial Partnership Talk Page
CZ:Become a Partner
Dan Nessett 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description missing
WP credit often vanishes 4 include in Metadata This would also allow other sources to be credited properly Peter Schmitt, Daniel Mietchen 20:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
no policy on installing extensions 4 draft one ask Greg Forum thread Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description missing
Some search engines display our disclaimer rather than useful page summaries, thus keeping visitors away 4 display the definition on the cluster's main page rather than on the talk page demo Forum thread on demo Forum thread on problem due to demo Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description missing
Is there a simpler implementation of the subpages mechanism? 3 Perhaps by using of namespaces? Peter Schmitt 00:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Moving clusters and deleting redirects are likely to leave orphaned pages behind 3 Can the move mechanics be improved? Peter Schmitt 00:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
much of our best content is hidden to occasional visitors, and CZ:Article of the Week / Archive:New Draft of the Week require more energy than we seem to have on a permanent basis 3 Display the introductory parts of approved articles on the CZ:Welcome Page by means of transclusion and random selection (as already practices for CZ:Quotes. CZ:Article of the Week / Archive:New Draft of the Week as well as CZ:Quotes, all of which have been in operation for a while Forum thread Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description missing
Technical approval mechanics: Can it be simplified? 3 Can branches of the revision control be used? Peter Schmitt 20:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC) Is copy and paste indeed the best method?
no policy on bots and scripts 3 draft one document all your bot and script runs; bots using non-PWB scripts must operate with categories that allow for undo Forum thread Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description missing
No coherent guidance on Citations, References, and Bibliographies on CZ, and content overlap with External links 3 Solutions Trials Talk Page / Forum thread on merging Bibliography and External Links subpages Dan Nessett, Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description missing
Special:Upload allows too few file types 3 change it no demo needed Forum thread Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description complete
No easy way to compare current approved with current draft version 2 extend diff (if possible) workaround Only if approved version has not been changed independently!: (0) Add &diff=cur to the url of the approved revision of the draft. If that is too complicated, you can get there in the following three steps too: (1) Go to an approved article's Approval subpage, (2) Follow the link to the latest approved version, (3) The "diff" link after "Current revision" gives you the difference, and its content will update automatically when new edits to the draft have been made Current possibility: Paste approved version into draft, use "view changes"
//Has to be included into {{Approval}} by adding &diff=cur to the url of the approved revision of the draft, along with a brief statement that this is the difference.
Peter Schmitt 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description missing
Further information not linked from bottom of page 2 changing {{Subpages}} a demo demo2 Forum thread
Having additional links at the bottom may also help solve the problem discussed at Talk:Economics#Article format section.
John Stephenson, Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description missing
Every subpage has a talk page 2 reduce this to one per cluster the subpages template always leads to the cluster's talk page, but the "discussion" tab does not see this edit summary Daniel Mietchen 21:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Printable version contains unneeded material (frame,links) 2 change layout and content "Monobook" and "Modern" print only the content of the page Peter Schmitt 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description missing
Allow more than 1 abc-field in Metadata 2 Would allow to put a page at two (or more) places in alphabet Peter Schmitt 14:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Content of frame/header/footer: Can it be better organized? 2 review, evaluate, improve includes some of the other topics Peter Schmitt 22:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
"Did you know?" section on Welcome page 2 could be similar to CZ:Quotes Forum thread Daniel Mietchen 13:13, 26 June 2010 (UTC) Problem description incomplete
No templates for numbered equations 2 write them up A HTML workaround can be seen at Sturm-Liouville theory, discussed here So much HTML code here on wiki is error-prone Daniel Mietchen 15:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC) Problem description complete
The title of subpages is displayed with an " > ", which is an unnecessary burden for copy/pasting page titles while editing 1 Change it to "/" in the MediaWiki settings none Forum thread Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Problem description complete
Problem Priority Solution demo/ trial/ workaround Comments or Forum thread contact person replace with five tildes Problem description missing

Done

Problem Priority Solution Possible trial solution Comments Contact person Date filed Status
The Healing Arts Workgroup currently allows advocates of fringe positions to act as editors. 4 merge it with the Health Sciences Workgroup none, though in principle, one could just merge the respective categories of the type Category:Healing Arts Content and Category:Health Sciences Content Forum thread please add your name here, Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Solved
Obtrusive requests to edit subpages 3 restrict to logged-in users, if possible Peter Schmitt 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Solved
Confusing message on Lemma pages 1 change wording on Lemma pages only Forum thread Daniel Mietchen 11:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) or before Solved