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== Waste Management == | == Waste Management == | ||
For more discussion see the Discussion page of [[Talk:Nuclear_waste_management|Nuclear waste management]] | |||
and a response from NuScale | ===Increased waste from Small Modular Reactors=== | ||
https://newsroom.nuscalepower.com/news | '''National Academy of Sciences report:'''<br> | ||
''Nuclear waste from small modular reactors'', L.M.Krall, et.al., PNAS, 31 May 2022, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2111833119<br> | |||
'''From the abstract:'''<br> | |||
"the intrinsically higher neutron leakage associated with SMRs suggests that most designs are inferior to LWRs with respect to the generation, management, and final disposal of key radionuclides in nuclear waste."<br> | |||
"water-, molten salt-, and sodium-cooled SMR designs will increase the volume of nuclear waste in need of management and disposal by factors of 2 to 30."<br> | |||
'''For a critique of the NAS report see:'''<br> | |||
https://neutronbytes.com/2022/05/31/stanfords-questionable-study-on-spent-nuclear-fuel-for-smrs<br> | |||
'''For a response from NuScale see:'''<br> | |||
https://newsroom.nuscalepower.com/news<br> | |||
=== What about non-fuel waste === | |||
'''Question''' in the FaceBook group [https://www.facebook.com/groups/2081763568746983/posts/3111046639151999 Renewable vs Nuclear]<br> | |||
"all the stuff on the primary loop. Pipes, pumps, wiring, blah blah. Obviously there is going to be mechanical and chemical wear on parts and they will need to be replaced like any power plant relying on heat -> steam -> turbine -> generator process. Parts will be be additionally exposed to neutrons and presumably undergo nuclear reactions and I assume some of those reactions will compromise their mechanical properties... eventually. How big of a deal is this? Is it slow, fast? What is the balance of fuel waste to non-fuel waste? Where do these parts go?"<br> | |||
'''Answer''' from World Nuclear Association [https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/nuclear-wastes/decommissioning-nuclear-facilities.aspx Recycling and reuse of materials from decommissioning] | |||
Recycling materials from decommissioned nuclear facilities is constrained by the level of radioactivity in them. This is also true for materials from elsewhere, such as gas plants, but the levels specified can be very different. For example, scrap steel from gas plants may be recycled if it has less than 500,000 Bq/kg radioactivity. This level however is one thousand times higher than the clearance level for recycled material from the nuclear industry, where generally anything above 500 Bq/kg may not be cleared from regulatory control for recycling. | |||
'''Answer''' from [https://www.facebook.com/groups/2081763568746983/posts/3111046639151999/?comment_id=3114907785432551&reply_comment_id=3116849738571689 Captain Roger Blomquist, United States Navy (retired)] 8 Feb 2022:<br> | |||
"There are small concentrations of activated structural elements like cobalt. These typically have half-lives of years, not multiple decades. If they are recycled, then the workers doing the recycling will need to take (sometimes expensive) precautions to minimize their radiation exposure. I doubt that any such exposures would be harmful, although some might be. The precautions are quite likely far in excess of what is needed to prevent actual health effects." | |||
'''Question''' on [https://www.quora.com/How-big-a-problem-is-irradiated-steel-and-other-non-fuel-waste-from-a-nuclear-power-plant Quora.com] | |||
How big a problem is irradiated steel and other non-fuel waste from a nuclear power plant? | |||
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'''Answer''' from [https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/nuclear-wastes/decommissioning-nuclear-facilities.aspx World Nuclear Association] discussion of Recycling and reuse of materials from decommissioning:<br> | |||
Decommissioned steam generators from Bruce Power in Canada<br> | |||
"These steam generators were each 12m long and 2.5m diameter, with mass 100 tonnes, and contained some 4g of radionuclides with about 340 GBq of activity. Exposure was 0.08 mSv/hr at one metre." This compares to a chest x-ray (0.020 mSv) or the minimum exposure to show a measurable increase in cancer risk (100 mSv) [https://citizendium.org/wiki/Radiation_Hazards#/media/File:XKCD_Radiation_Chart.png XKCD Radiation Chart] | |||
'''Answer''' from [https://www.quora.com/How-big-a-problem-is-irradiated-steel-and-other-non-fuel-waste-from-a-nuclear-power-plant/answer/Lyle-McElhaney Lyle McElhaney] 30 March 2022:<br> | |||
Iron is an element that is difficult to make radioactive. | |||
This table shows that iron-56, which is almost 92% of all naturally occurring iron, requires three neutron absorptions before it becomes radioactive, and two absorptions for another 2% of the material. A single absorption is a low probability event for any given iron nucleus; absorbing three is a low probability to the third power. If it does happen, it results in iron-59 which beta decays to cobalt-59 (stable) with a half-life of 45 days. | |||
Of course, it also shows that about 6% of iron will become unstable with the absorption of a single neutron. The resulting isotope decays by electron capture, which does not emit a particle other than a neutrino, and results in manganese-55, which is stable. So, no harm done by that other than possibly some gamma-rays. | |||
The cobalt-59 resulting from a triple neutron capture could catch another neutron, becoming the dreaded cobalt-60, nemesis of the cobalt bomb. Cobalt-60 has a powerful gamma-ray emission as it beta decays with a half-life of around 5 years. This requires, as noted, 4 successive neutron captures with an intervening beta decay after the third. It is a very small probability event in concept; I don’t know what it is in practice. | |||
Other materials - some do become radioactive when drenched with neutrons for an extended time. One would need to know what materials to analyze what happens. |
Revision as of 08:12, 25 June 2022
Waste Management
For more discussion see the Discussion page of Nuclear waste management
Increased waste from Small Modular Reactors
National Academy of Sciences report:
Nuclear waste from small modular reactors, L.M.Krall, et.al., PNAS, 31 May 2022, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2111833119
From the abstract:
"the intrinsically higher neutron leakage associated with SMRs suggests that most designs are inferior to LWRs with respect to the generation, management, and final disposal of key radionuclides in nuclear waste."
"water-, molten salt-, and sodium-cooled SMR designs will increase the volume of nuclear waste in need of management and disposal by factors of 2 to 30."
For a critique of the NAS report see:
https://neutronbytes.com/2022/05/31/stanfords-questionable-study-on-spent-nuclear-fuel-for-smrs
For a response from NuScale see:
https://newsroom.nuscalepower.com/news
What about non-fuel waste
Question in the FaceBook group Renewable vs Nuclear
"all the stuff on the primary loop. Pipes, pumps, wiring, blah blah. Obviously there is going to be mechanical and chemical wear on parts and they will need to be replaced like any power plant relying on heat -> steam -> turbine -> generator process. Parts will be be additionally exposed to neutrons and presumably undergo nuclear reactions and I assume some of those reactions will compromise their mechanical properties... eventually. How big of a deal is this? Is it slow, fast? What is the balance of fuel waste to non-fuel waste? Where do these parts go?"
Answer from World Nuclear Association Recycling and reuse of materials from decommissioning
Recycling materials from decommissioned nuclear facilities is constrained by the level of radioactivity in them. This is also true for materials from elsewhere, such as gas plants, but the levels specified can be very different. For example, scrap steel from gas plants may be recycled if it has less than 500,000 Bq/kg radioactivity. This level however is one thousand times higher than the clearance level for recycled material from the nuclear industry, where generally anything above 500 Bq/kg may not be cleared from regulatory control for recycling.
Answer from Captain Roger Blomquist, United States Navy (retired) 8 Feb 2022:
"There are small concentrations of activated structural elements like cobalt. These typically have half-lives of years, not multiple decades. If they are recycled, then the workers doing the recycling will need to take (sometimes expensive) precautions to minimize their radiation exposure. I doubt that any such exposures would be harmful, although some might be. The precautions are quite likely far in excess of what is needed to prevent actual health effects."
Question on Quora.com
How big a problem is irradiated steel and other non-fuel waste from a nuclear power plant?
Answer from World Nuclear Association discussion of Recycling and reuse of materials from decommissioning:
Decommissioned steam generators from Bruce Power in Canada
"These steam generators were each 12m long and 2.5m diameter, with mass 100 tonnes, and contained some 4g of radionuclides with about 340 GBq of activity. Exposure was 0.08 mSv/hr at one metre." This compares to a chest x-ray (0.020 mSv) or the minimum exposure to show a measurable increase in cancer risk (100 mSv) XKCD Radiation Chart
Answer from Lyle McElhaney 30 March 2022:
Iron is an element that is difficult to make radioactive.
This table shows that iron-56, which is almost 92% of all naturally occurring iron, requires three neutron absorptions before it becomes radioactive, and two absorptions for another 2% of the material. A single absorption is a low probability event for any given iron nucleus; absorbing three is a low probability to the third power. If it does happen, it results in iron-59 which beta decays to cobalt-59 (stable) with a half-life of 45 days.
Of course, it also shows that about 6% of iron will become unstable with the absorption of a single neutron. The resulting isotope decays by electron capture, which does not emit a particle other than a neutrino, and results in manganese-55, which is stable. So, no harm done by that other than possibly some gamma-rays.
The cobalt-59 resulting from a triple neutron capture could catch another neutron, becoming the dreaded cobalt-60, nemesis of the cobalt bomb. Cobalt-60 has a powerful gamma-ray emission as it beta decays with a half-life of around 5 years. This requires, as noted, 4 successive neutron captures with an intervening beta decay after the third. It is a very small probability event in concept; I don’t know what it is in practice.
Other materials - some do become radioactive when drenched with neutrons for an extended time. One would need to know what materials to analyze what happens.
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