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:I still think point 4 belongs in Article 28, which is specific to the Editorial Council already. -[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 04:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:I still think point 4 belongs in Article 28, which is specific to the Editorial Council already. -[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 04:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::Shouldn't this charter say something about how many members the councils have?  Can we elect everyone that is nominated?  How many can be nominated?  I don't think we should let the councils decide, should we? [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 11:55, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I think since we don't say how many can be nominated, then there can be as many nominations as there are citizens.  There is a clause in interim guidance that sets the initial number of seats, and there is a clause in the referendum section granting power to increase number by two.  [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 00:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::::I missed the interim guidance suggestion. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 14:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Empowerment article: [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 16:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
<blockquote>Each Council shall<br />
# have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members; <br />
# develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council; <br />
# <--[Moved from [[Template:CharterVote2/24/Discussion|Article 24]]]--> be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time <u>(not more than two years)</u> provide that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council. <br />
# <s>In the Editorial Council, a number of members corresponding to the quorum shall be Editors while the rest of the members shall be Citizens who are not Editors.</s> Moved to [[Template:CharterVote2/28/Discussion|Article 28]]
# <u>have power to adjudicate disputes in their core competency: content for Editorial Council, behavior for Management Council.</u>
# <u>have power to impose sanctions on Citizens for violations of rules.</u>
</blockquote>
<s>Agree. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 14:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)</s><br />
:Agree. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 16:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:Still Agree. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 16:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
See this [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/User:D._Matt_Innis/CurrentDraft/RevisedStructure#Feedback_mechanism discussion].  It now looks like this:
<blockquote>Each Council shall<br />
# have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members; <br />
# develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council, <u>including a mechanism that allows Citizens to petition that Council.</u> <br />
# be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time (not more than two years) provided that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council. <br />
# have power to adjudicate disputes in their core competency: content for Editorial Council, behavior for Management Council.
# have power to impose sanctions on Citizens for violations of rules.
</blockquote>
:Agree. [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 03:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:Agree. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 21:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:Agree. --[[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 21:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:Agree. [[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 15:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:34, 23 July 2010

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Each Council shall

1. have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members;
2. develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council;
3. <--[Moved from Article 24]--> be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time (not more than two years) provide that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council.

4. In the Editorial Council, a number of members corresponding to the quorum shall be Editors while the rest of the members shall be Citizens who are not Editors.

I'm not sure this is a version I'm yet happy with. I'd like to sit with it a bit and see what you all think about it. Russell D. Jones 01:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I still think point 4 belongs in Article 28, which is specific to the Editorial Council already. -Joe Quick 04:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't this charter say something about how many members the councils have? Can we elect everyone that is nominated? How many can be nominated? I don't think we should let the councils decide, should we? D. Matt Innis 11:55, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
I think since we don't say how many can be nominated, then there can be as many nominations as there are citizens. There is a clause in interim guidance that sets the initial number of seats, and there is a clause in the referendum section granting power to increase number by two. Russell D. Jones 00:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
I missed the interim guidance suggestion. D. Matt Innis 14:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


Empowerment article: Russell D. Jones 16:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Each Council shall

  1. have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members;
  2. develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council;
  3. <--[Moved from Article 24]--> be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time (not more than two years) provide that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council.
  4. In the Editorial Council, a number of members corresponding to the quorum shall be Editors while the rest of the members shall be Citizens who are not Editors. Moved to Article 28
  5. have power to adjudicate disputes in their core competency: content for Editorial Council, behavior for Management Council.
  6. have power to impose sanctions on Citizens for violations of rules.

Agree. D. Matt Innis 14:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Agree. Russell D. Jones 16:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Still Agree. D. Matt Innis 16:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


See this discussion. It now looks like this:

Each Council shall

  1. have a quorum corresponding to the simple majority of its members;
  2. develop written guidelines to define and explain methods of communicating with that particular Council, including a mechanism that allows Citizens to petition that Council.
  3. be empowered to appoint delegates to perform specific tasks for a specific period of time (not more than two years) provided that the responsibility for the actions of a delegate shall always remain with the appointing Council.
  4. have power to adjudicate disputes in their core competency: content for Editorial Council, behavior for Management Council.
  5. have power to impose sanctions on Citizens for violations of rules.
Agree. D. Matt Innis 03:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Agree. --Daniel Mietchen 21:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Agree. --Russell D. Jones 21:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Agree. Joe Quick 15:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC)