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This page contains standards and regulations related to Works [[CZ:Subpages|subpages]].
''We would like a historian, literary scholar, philosopher, or other humanist to help fill out this page.  It should describe our policies with regard to lists of written works (books, poems, written music, etc.).''
''We would like a historian, literary scholar, philosopher, or other humanist to help fill out this page.  It should describe our policies with regard to lists of written works (books, poems, written music, etc.).''


== What are Works pages? ==
== What are Works pages? ==
I think they should list the works OF the person in the article, assuming the article is about a person. Works ABOUT the person should, IMHO, be in the Bibliography pages.
"Works" subpages contain lists of books, articles, artworks, etc., (but not films or music, which would go on the Videography or Discography subpages) authored or otherwise created by the person who is the subject of the main article. They are separate from "Bibliography" pages, which contain lists of books, articles, etc., ''about'' the subject of the main article.


I can't think what function a Works page would have in articles not about persons. What would be the "works" of [[Encyclopaedia Britannica]]? Or [[Mathematics]]? Or [[Onslow Beach]]?
== Purpose ==
 
"Works" subpages fulfill a very particular need: they provide a listing of the works which appeared in an author's lifetime (and, in some cases, posthumously). The "works" subpage is not the location for a detailed discussion of the chronology of different works or a discussion of the contexts or causes of the work's creationThese sorts of discussions properly belong in the main article. It may be proper to discuss briefly changes made in different editions of an author's work, unless the text becomes too long or too burdened. In which cases these sorts of discussions should be moved into the main article.  
Maybe the above fits best on the talk page, but since there wasn't anything here but an empty framework, I put them here to get something started. [[User:Louis F. Sander|Louis F. Sander]] 19:51, 6 September 2007 (CDT)
:I think all your points are valid. This subpage would only be used for articles about people, I assume. There would be no need to use it for article not about persons.  This is the reason most subpages are optional. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 19:56, 6 September 2007 (CDT)
 
::GMTA. Groups of people might have Works, too. I'm thinking of [[Monty Python]]. [[The Beatles]], etc. [[User:Louis F. Sander|Louis F. Sander]] 20:10, 6 September 2007 (CDT)
 
::: I've been listing writings by the subject of an article as primary sources in the bibliography (such as Benjamin Franklin's ''Autobiography'')Would this belong in both places? Lot's of historical people have published letters, diaries, etc. which seem to me would be better placed in the bibliography, whereas say songs written by Paul McCartney would be an example of a "work". --[[User:Todd Coles|Todd Coles]] 20:22, 6 September 2007 (CDT)
 
::::Or discography? [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 20:46, 6 September 2007 (CDT)


== Purpose ==
Each work should include title, publisher, and date of original publication.
To list the major works of the person in the article.


== Heading and format standards ==
== Heading and format standards ==
Comment: I've been thinking about this in connection with the Works section of the article about [[Thomas_L._Saaty/Works|Thomas L. Saaty]]. He is an academic who has written many books and papers. My notion of the headings in his Works section is that they should include Scholarly books, Other books, and Papers, which are the main categories of his works. This would vary for other people, of course. The works of Leonardo da Vinci might have headings for Drawings, Paintings, Inventions, and Writings. Those for [[Barry Manilow]] might show Songwriting, Recordings, Films, and Live performances.
On the "Works" subpage, the name of the author need not be included except where there was a co-author. It is understood that the author of the work is the person named in the main article.


I've also given thought to the formatting of the citations of Saaty's books, or those of any author. The "standard" formats work fine for references in a bibliography -- they were designed to be short bits of text that identify a book that is being referred to, and possibly to help you find the book. Their function is to say "I used this source."
== Guidelines for editing ==
Since there's nothing here yet, I will provide a pointer to an article that has one of these: [[Claude Shannon]].  I was working on this article and others felt that the works needed to go on a separate tab, which I personally would not have chosen, since I intended to center the article around a discussion of these works, but after I saw it, I thought I could live with it, and that it was perhaps even rather nice.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 15:15, 10 May 2008 (CDT)


But for a list of works, you want more than that. Possibly a brief summary of the book and its importance. Possibly the number of pages, to give an idea of the book's size. Some of that is in Saaty's Works page right now. [[User:Louis F. Sander|Louis F. Sander]] 19:56, 6 September 2007 (CDT)
''Back to [[CZ:Subpages|Subpages]]''
:With respect to art da Vinci's works would definitely encompass ALL his work.  Have you seen the following page? [[CZ:Subpage_Pilot#Further_bibliographic_material]]; it write "''Works: a list of books, articles, artworks, etc., authored by a person''" [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 21:06, 6 September 2007 (CDT)
 
== Guidelines for editing ==


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Latest revision as of 20:08, 9 December 2008

This page contains standards and regulations related to Works subpages.

We would like a historian, literary scholar, philosopher, or other humanist to help fill out this page. It should describe our policies with regard to lists of written works (books, poems, written music, etc.).

What are Works pages?

"Works" subpages contain lists of books, articles, artworks, etc., (but not films or music, which would go on the Videography or Discography subpages) authored or otherwise created by the person who is the subject of the main article. They are separate from "Bibliography" pages, which contain lists of books, articles, etc., about the subject of the main article.

Purpose

"Works" subpages fulfill a very particular need: they provide a listing of the works which appeared in an author's lifetime (and, in some cases, posthumously). The "works" subpage is not the location for a detailed discussion of the chronology of different works or a discussion of the contexts or causes of the work's creation. These sorts of discussions properly belong in the main article. It may be proper to discuss briefly changes made in different editions of an author's work, unless the text becomes too long or too burdened. In which cases these sorts of discussions should be moved into the main article.

Each work should include title, publisher, and date of original publication.

Heading and format standards

On the "Works" subpage, the name of the author need not be included except where there was a co-author. It is understood that the author of the work is the person named in the main article.

Guidelines for editing

Since there's nothing here yet, I will provide a pointer to an article that has one of these: Claude Shannon. I was working on this article and others felt that the works needed to go on a separate tab, which I personally would not have chosen, since I intended to center the article around a discussion of these works, but after I saw it, I thought I could live with it, and that it was perhaps even rather nice.Pat Palmer 15:15, 10 May 2008 (CDT)

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