Talk:Conservapedia

Original research?

Do you think my comparison of the block lists for Wikipedia, Citizendium and Conservapedia constitute original research? I'm not sure. If so, delete or modify. John Stephenson 23:36, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Article count

The real question isn't how many articles there are, but what the total word count is, and how many of words are garbage! --Larry Sanger 00:05, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

This obviously is not a Religion Workgroup article. What do religious scholars know about it? Conservapedia is politically slanted, first and foremost. --Larry Sanger 00:05, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

I have removed [[Category: Religion Workgroup]] given this criticism; however, I'd say it is peripherally to do with that group because of the religious aspect of Conservapedia. Apart from the creationism stuff, they do have a Bible quote-of-the-day on the main page. John Stephenson 03:38, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

Would National Review be in the Religion Workgroup as well? Perhaps The Nation should be, because they have so many atheist writers? --Larry Sanger 08:25, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

Neutral Point of View?

The first sentence of this entry leaves a great deal to be desired from a 'neutral point of view' standpoint. There is a strong implication that a conservative point of view is a "pro-American" point of view. That almost certainly is the viewpoint of Conservapedia, but it shouldn't be the viewpoint of Citizendium. (Simply massaging the sentence a bit might take care of the problem.)

Roger Lohmann 15:17, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

It definitely has had a political slant. However, I have found the project director amenable to softening some of the site's stances. I am intensely interested in the differences between Conservapedia, Citizendium and Wikipedia. Is there a place around here to discuss this? Or a mailing list perhaps? --Ed Poor 16:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Try http://forum.citizendium.org/ - not sure which board I'd use, perhaps Chat or Non-member discussion. --Larry Sanger 23:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Science and Creationism

Cut from article text:

Similarly, the site often promotes a creationist perspective which is flatly contradicted by overwhelming scientific evidence; its article on kangaroos, for instance, prioritises the idea that these marsupials did not evolve but are descended from a pair that boarded Noah's Ark. The site has attracted heavy criticism and ridicule as a result of pages such as this,

I'd like to learn more about "overwhelming scientific evidence" regarding evolution. Do biologists know which animal kangaroos are descended from? (Or is it a conjecture, based on the principle that "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution," as Dobzhansky says.

Perhaps we could say that proponents of evolution have criticized and ridiculed the project for its defiance of the mainstream perspective. But correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not sure how — (The Constabulary has removed an initialism here. Please use plain English instead, for example, "unbiased" or "neutral" ) — works here.

How much weight does one side have to have, before we give up being neutral about a dispute and simply endorse that side? For example, there is no serious dispute that Larry Sanger cofounded Wikipedia. --Ed Poor 16:04, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

A comment here was deleted by The Constabulary on grounds of making complaints about fellow Citizens. If you have a complaint about the behavior of another Citizen, e-mail constables@citizendium.org. It is contrary to Citizendium policy to air your complaints on the wiki. See also CZ:Professionalism.

Hi Ed, we use this version of CZ:Neutrality Policy here. Also, take a look at CZ:Professionalism to refresh your memory as well. D. Matt Innis 16:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Challenging sysops

I have removed the following sentance: Debate about topics - rather than discussion of how to improve an article - is tolerated; so is questioning the character or judgment of contributors and sysops. because this is patently untrue. I know this not just from my own experiences but from observing how the '90/10' rule is implemented. Often, users who raise questions on talk pages (The Dawkins and Obama pages being spectacular cases in point) get banned if they continue to interrogate the logic behind the arguments made (Such as the semi-racist charge that Obama is a secret muslim). Please discuss on this talk page if you disagree with the reversion. Denis Cavanagh 18:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)