User talk:Ivan Kelly

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Glad to see new activity

I'm a Computers Workgroup Editor, and noticed the new update on your userpage. There are a number of articles where involvement would be welcome, but I'd also be delighted to help get started any articles of special interest to you. Howard C. Berkowitz 15:57, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

If it would help on familiarization, I can point to some articles where other eyes would be welcome. Now, under my computers hat, I'm principally a network engineer, but I do have substantial interests in fault tolerance. Medical error and decision support gets into an interesting interdisciplinary area with quality engineering. Quality is also important with military systems, although I'm sometimes confused, if I describe the medical as life-critical, are these death-critical? Howard C. Berkowitz 17:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Why not, Howard.

Please set the pages and I'll see if I can contribute. It could be a great place to start. As to error faulting I am on the material propeties analysis, my QA side is in manufacturing. However I do have reasonable problem solving skills and if the topic is one that piques my interest. Well then you have another researcher. Ivan Kelly 19:57, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

OK. One of the challenges in the Internet infrastructure is that several new technologies are in various stages of deployment, but are more interdependent than many people realize. I've created, or collaborated on, hierarchies starting with top-level articles on the Domain Name System (DNS), and the Internet Protocol version 6 generation of Internet Protocol. I believe the top-level DNS article is ready or nearly ready for approval, but you could be a very good judge of whether it (and perhaps some of the subordinate articles) are clear to a nonspecialist. There are also some more general communications articles such as value of networks, and one that is definitely still experimental, locality of networks. Anycasting, I believe, is also ready for prime time but needs review.

There is also a page on usability. In my sandbox, you'll find a draft CZ infrastructure proposal, User: Howard C. Berkowitz/Strong Articles. For the latter, the "lemma" idea is still soft and in need of refinement; remember that this is a proposal that will produce instructions for the general CZ user. Howard C. Berkowitz 03:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Glad you are looking at it from the standpoint of a nonspeciaist. Now, value of networks is to some extent specialized, although if it made some sense to someone with no specialized experience in the technology but in business or economics, that would be great. We don't yet really have a good way of saying "skip over this section" if you aren't a specialist. Domain Name System, just as a stylistic example, was more consciously written for a beginner, with detail in subarticles. Internet Protocol version 6 is written for a beginner. to that technology, who already knows a good deal of general networking; there is a difference.

I think we both have style, and also are evolving it. I happened to ask ask the question elsewhere about the best flow of a biographical article; I've concluded that one format doesn't fit all. For James Jones, his most recent activities are most important so reverse chronological makes sense. Where someone's life is relevant, including how the childhood made the adult (e.g., Ho Chi Minh), straight chronology is better. Sometimes only one period of life is important, or the actions before or afterwards are more background.

Don't worry about constructive criticism. I think it was the (UK) Royal Navy that had the saying "if you can't take a joke, you shouldn't have signed up."Howard C. Berkowitz 15:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)