User talk:Henry A. Padleckas/Archive 1

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Welcome!! Welcome!! Welcome!!

Hi, Henry ... I 've been waiting a long time for another Chemical Engineer to become active on CZ. There are others who have joined but are not very active .. .as I hope you will be. I responded to you on my talk page and I want to repeat what I said there: we could sure use your WP articles on "Vapor-liquid equilibrium" and "Chemical plant" and I would be most happy to help you get them into the format of CZ articles. It would also be your chance to rid them of incorrect revisions that some WP people may have made in them.

I will add your name as a member of our Chemical Engineering subgroup. All of our articles are designated as being in one or more Workgroups (similar to WP's categories) and one or more Subgroups if relevant.

Once you have your bearings here, its a very good idea to join the Forums (see the left-hand vertical panel) and to read them at least once a day to keep up with what is going on here ... and offer your comments as well.

Also, if you visit my user page at User:Milton Beychok you will find links in the upper section to my Image Galleries 1, 2 and 3 ... which has copies of about 130 images I have uploaded. You may find some of them useful in articles you may write. I drew many of them and the others have been uploaded from Wikimedia Commons, Flickr and other places. Just so you know, if you upload images into CZ from Commons or Flickr, you must obtain the real name of whoever created those images and, of course, they must have the appropriate licensing. Pseudonyms are not good enough. Milton Beychok 22:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Milt, thank you for the welcome. :-) Of the articles I've [mostly] written or started for Wikipedia, "Chemical plant" is my favorite one. Your galleries of images are very impressive too. I noticed that you redid the multi-component tall distillation tower diagram I originally made for Wikipedia's "Continuous distillation" article. I had similarly expanded my diagram to include the condensate pumps and what-not and saved it on a flash drive, which I unfortunately cannot find. :-( I want want to fix up the VLE article a bit before I transfer it here. Henry A. Padleckas 22:56, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

One other thing I forgot to mention above. It is a good idea to create a personal sandbox or two. In that way, when you port an article here from WP, you can work on it in your sandbox until you think it is ready to move into the CZ article namespace. You can also ask me or anyone else to review it in your sandbox before you move it into the namespace. Some of us at CZ frown upon porting articles from Wiki into the namespace unless they have been thoroughly reviewed/revised/re-formatted/etc. Milton Beychok 06:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I think I'll do that with "Chemical plant". This "policy" of discouraging stubs is unfortunate for CZ because it does not allow articles to be created as stubs, then grow by true wiki style as was often (but not always) the case in Wikipedia. It was one of the things that allowed Wikipedia to grow so rapidly in its earlier days. Henry A. Padleckas 14:12, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Henry, I didn't mean to give the impression that we discourage stubs. We have lots of them. Its just articles ported from Wikipedia that some of us feel should be thoroughly gone over before moving into the namespace. In fact, when you begin adding a new article here , you will find that a "Metadata template" must be created and you must specify a "status" for the article. The "status" ranges from 4 (an external article such as articles ported from WP), 3 (a stub of just a few sentences or a paragraph or two), 2 (a developing article) and 1 (a developed article ... ready to be nominated for approval by Editors). For example, after you have worked over your WP port of "Chemical plant" and move it into the namespace, I would suggest that you rate it as a "status" 2 on the Metadata template. As another example, the "Steam" article that I recently created was ranked as a "status" 2. Then perhaps some weeks later, after people have had a chance to offer comments or make some revisions, you might go back and bump it up to "status" 1 if you truly believe that it is then ready for that status.

There are other things about creating a CZ article such as creating the subpages "Related Articles", "Bibliography", and "External Links" which should be done and populated before an article is bumped to "status" 1. CZ articles don't have a "See also" section at the bottom ... instead, links to other related CZ articles are put into the "Related Articles" subpage. Links to articles on the Web are put into the "External Links" subpage (rather than at the bottom of the article as at WP).

When you are ready to move an article out of your sandbox into the namespace and need help, let me know. If I'm not available, you could contact these users: Paul Wormer, Daniel Mietchen, or Howard C. Berkowitz. If you ever screw things up completely (and I did that often when I first came here), contact our "Constables" like D. Matt Innis or Hayford Pierce who have certain sysop rights and can straighten things out for you. The five people I've named are all very helpful as are many others. Milton Beychok 17:41, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Welcome from here too, Henry! --Daniel Mietchen 08:32, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

See my response to your question about Nuclear power

I responded to your question at some length. In essence, no I don't plan to write a separate article about nuclear power plants.

By the way, I like your edits to Water. Milton Beychok 09:20, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Just a quick question

Henry, have you joined the Forums yet? If not, you are missing a good part of the Citizendium experience. Regards, Milton Beychok 23:20, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I have not yet joined the Forums. I will take a look at them sometime. Henry A. Padleckas 00:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I guess I joined the Citizendium Forums. It's past my bed time now. Henry A. Padleckas 08:37, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

About your sandbox and its talk page

Henry, there is no need to ask for deletion of your sandbox and its talk page. Just delete whatever is in them now that you've moved your article into the article namespace ... and then they are ready to use again. That is what I have done dozens of times now.

Also, I have 3 sandboxes so that I can work on more than one article at a time. Milton Beychok 07:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Red links are good and serve a useful function

Henry, if you want to mention or discuss tank farms in Chemical plant, then do so and link "tank farm". A red link is good because it alerts everyone as to what articles are still needed. CZ simply does not yet have all of the "infrastructure" articles that WP has and red links are very helpful ... especially in the Related Articles subpage as well as in the main article text. Milton Beychok 07:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Hurry back Henry!

It's been great having you here! Are those other things really THAT important?! hehe.. :D. Matt Innis 13:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Properties of Materials

Greetings!,

There is a discussion of materials properties and whether/how to incorporate them at CZ going on here:

http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,3054.45/topicseen.html

Milton Beychok mentioned he was hoping you might join in...--David Yamakuchi 02:02, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for notifying me. Henry A. Padleckas 07:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Submarine and other naval things...

Delighted to have your ideas in the Submarine article. I did link to the subordinate articles on SSN and SSBN (but not yet the hybrid SSGN-special ops with the first four Ohios).

Some interesting recent developments, and I'd welcome your looking at Littoral Combat Ship, where the ASW module is a fiasco -- I'm digging around in open literature to see if I can get a better sense of direction, if there is one. Another change in ASW is that the P-8 Poseidon does not carry magnetic anomaly detection, apparently because they decided the weight could better be put into more sonobuoys. As far as I know, however, MAD is on the new H-60 series helicopters. Howard C. Berkowitz 16:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Howard. If there is anything in my edits to Submarine you want to clarify, qualify, correct, or expand upon, go ahead.

I've looked over much of the Littoral Combat Ship article, and I do have some edits to make, mostly minor, but it is almost 2 AM Central Standard Time here and I must be off to beddy-bye. The only non-minor edit I plan so far is to update the names of LCS 3 and 4 to USS Fort Worth and USS Coronado. Henry A. Padleckas 07:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

For the time being, I reviewed and edited the Littoral Combat Ship article about as much as I care to. Howard, you can see my comment at the Talk:Littoral Combat Ship. Another observation of mine is that the article probably has more detailed chronology on planning and procurement than I think would be necessary to a general purpose encyclopedia. As more such ships are built and deployed, the article would presumably expand further, crowding out excessive preliminary detail. On another (similar) topic, I have not found much on Refueling and Overhaul of nuclear warships in CZ yet. I'm thinking of starting such an article in CZ. Henry A. Padleckas 05:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Would you please look at Liquefied natural gas?

Henry, I would appreciate your looking at Liquefied natural gas and offering comments, edits, revisions or whatever. Milton Beychok 05:36, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I've looked over the LNG article. Henry A. Padleckas 05:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Interested in being an Editor in the Engineering workgroup?

Henry, would you be interested in being an Editor in the Engineering workgroup? We really need another one! Milton Beychok 23:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Milt, thank you; I'm thinking about it. Henry A. Padleckas 05:17, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Update your page

Henry, I guess that the text "Some things came up in my life, and I'm going to be busy for at least the next couple of weeks. I will not have time to do much here, even though this stuff is more fun. Henry A. Padleckas 05:07, 9 December 2009 (UTC)" on your page is already obsolete :-) --Boris Tsirelson 19:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I put an update note on my User page. Henry A. Padleckas 22:38, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Financial Report as of March 15, 2011

Please read our Financial Report as of March 15, 2001 for complete details on our financial history and our current financial situation. If you have any questions, please ask them on CZ Talk:Donate. Milton Beychok 00:23, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Reproduction (biology)

Hi Henry, it looks like you filled in the metadata page fine. I have a question about the article text - when I Google it I find that it is identical to an article that appears on something called Xtubewiki which advertises itself as part of the "PornHub Network", where it was added by a user called Seksinfo in May 2007.

This encouraged me to take a look at the Wikipedia article to see if Seksinfo had transferred the article from there, but in May 2007 that article looked very different to the PornHub version.

Can I ask where you got the text of this article from? The article is currently listed as status 2 developed, but it looks like it might be a status 4 external article? David Finn 08:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

It's a modified version of the Xtubewiki article. Is that OK? This article is not intended to be porn in nature, of course. Henry A. Padleckas 08:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. CZ does have rules about importing articles, and I guess it all hinges on how much the article has been modified. If you read this page it gives advice on how to import articles - it mostly refers to Wikipedia but I think it applies to most external articles. I hope that helps, and thanks for contributing! David Finn 08:37, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I thought that information from other Wikis could be copied since the Wiki-authors release such content under similar free licences in all Wikis. I planned to modify the article further actually, but I clicked "Save" by mistake. Henry A. Padleckas 09:00, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

After another review of this article, I deleted one more sentence. Now it is exactly the way I like it except, of course, that it could be expanded into more detail. It's reasonably simple, covers the basics well, and it's still about as "family-friendly" as this topic can get, assuming CZ does not want articles going into the details of sex. I don't think I could improve it much easily now. After looking over this page, it seems as if there may be insufficient modification to differentiate it from the XtubeWiki article. There seem to be two options now; either reference the XtubeWiki article or delete the article, which I can do myself by blanking the page. If you or the CZ community doesn't like it, I might just blank the page, and probably let somebody else write such a key biological article in the future. Henry A. Padleckas 09:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)