User talk:Jorge Aranda

Welcome!

Welcome to the Citizendium! We hope you will contribute boldly and well. You'll probably want to know how to get started as an author. Just look at CZ:Getting Started for other helpful "startup" links, and CZ:Home for the top menu of community pages. Be sure to stay abreast of events via the Citizendium-L (broadcast) mailing list (do join!) and the blog. Please also join the workgroup mailing list(s) that concern your particular interests. You can test out editing in the sandbox if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the forums is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any constable for help, too. Me, for instance! Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and have fun! Robert Tito |  Talk  16:57, 14 October 2007 (CDT)

Haha

Welcome to the dark side, where quality > openness ;) Aaron Schulz 22:20, 14 October 2007 (CDT)

Aaron, I disagree with the implied criticism. We have every bit of openness that matters and that is worth the name. I don't think that our failure to be open to anonymity and people who disagree with our policies really counts against our openness. We are a remarkably open project, compared to most academic projects. Wikipedia feels like a much more closed project than CZ, to me, not just because of the cliquishness, but because it is so completely off-putting to people who take personal responsibility and the rule of law (rather than of the mob) seriously. --Larry Sanger 22:56, 14 October 2007 (CDT)

...Actually, I wasn't criticizing it. I've always thought that quality should take precedence. Aaron Schulz 23:02, 14 October 2007 (CDT)

No worries. But even if it wasn't meant as a criticism, the thought itself bothers me. Openness is the engine that makes wikis and other such projects run. If we aren't open, we aren't going anywhere. --Larry Sanger 08:13, 16 October 2007 (CDT)