Talk:Dance

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 Definition A continuous and mentally organised sequence of (body) movements containing an expressive character. [d] [e]
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We need a moving animation showing dance. Micha van den Berg 17:15, 22 November 2007 (CST)

Did you just volunteer to make one?  :) Aleta Curry 21:04, 22 November 2007 (CST)

I changed your definition because it was vague: punching someone in the face is "(body) movement that contains an expressive character", as is a slip-and-fall schtick in vaudeville, a card hustle, or for that matter, hanging oneself.

I thought your other additions were really good, keep it up!

Aleta Curry 21:08, 22 November 2007 (CST)

Yes, all those things could be part of a dance; though this might sound very silly. Dance is continous, (it changes and morphs and does not consist out of an single action) and dance is organised through the act of using your nervous system to dance (so non living things do not dance), and dance is specific (it expresses itself as isolated movement) or (dance contains itself).

It is the ability of making your body move without another exterior cause. Micha van den Berg 22:24, 22 November 2007 (CST)

I think i got it. Dance is movement expressed in the context of culture and ritual. Micha van den Berg 22:38, 22 November 2007 (CST)

Wow! Great work here. I had a small tidy session in the introduction as it felt heavy but important, meaning the meaning was getting lost to me in the forms of expression. I hope I added rather than subtracted with my tidying edits. --Ian Johnson 06:26, 1 December 2007 (CST)

format

Micha, you must be careful about your use of italics and dashes. They're fine when used appropriately, but some of your use here serves to confuse. I'm going to take them out (again); please do not replace them. Aleta Curry 15:22, 1 December 2007 (CST)


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I've solicited an editor in a related field to give advice on terminology. Stephen Ewen 15:03, 5 December 2007 (CST)


New submission

I think this grouping could work very well. It makes sense anthropologically.

Austral-Asia

Overview: dance in Austral-Asia
Types of dances in Austral-Asia: How are social, performance and ritualistic dances expressed?
Overview: Types of dances in Austral-Asia
How do Aboriginal people express dance?
How do Polonysian people express dance
How do European-Australian people express dance

We could add smaller subsections about the Maori or Pappua people

Europe

Overview: dance in Europe
Types of dances in Europe: How are social, performance and ritualistic dances expressed?
Overview: Types of dances in Europe
How do European people express dance?
Divide in different cultural, ethnic and linguistic groups like Irish, French or Russian
How do Gypsy people express dance?
How do Jewish people express dance?
We could add smaller subsections about the Turkish or Saami people

North-America

Overview: dance in North-America
Types of dances in North-America: How are social, performance and ritualistic dances expressed?
Overview: Types of dances in North-America
How do Native-American people express dance?
Divide in different cultural, ethnic and linguistic groups.
How do African-American people express dance?
How do European-American people express dance?
We could add smaller subsections about the Inuit people

South-America

Overview: dance in South-America
Types of dances in South-America: How are social, performance and ritualistic dances expressed?
Overview: Types of dances in South-America
Not sure how to work out South-America yet.

Micha van den Berg 16:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)

I disagree. I think that the article should be organized by types of dances first, with breakdowns within each type to cover the specific dances done by specific peoples. So, for example:
Social Dance
Couple dances
Group dances
Performance Dance
Ritual Dance
Fertility Ritual Dances
Wedding Ritual Dances
Social Bonding Ritual Dances
Dance as Prayer/Propriation of Dieties
Performance Dance for Entertainment
Dance Entertainment
Ballet
(etc)
Dance in mixed-media entertainment
Song-and-dance (musicals)

(etc).

I realize some of my headings may be silly, but the basic idea I'd like to see is to emphasize the commonalities of dance forms across cultures, so far as that is possible. There should also be separate sections discussing the music to which dance is performed, though details there should be left for the specific articles on various cultural dance forms. Anthony Argyriou 20:39, 28 December 2007 (CST)