User talk:Richard T Murray

Tasks: start a new article • add basic, wanted or requested articles • add definitions • add metadata • edit new pages

Welcome to the Citizendium! We hope you will contribute boldly and well. Here are pointers for a quick start, and see Getting Started for other helpful "startup" links, our help system and CZ:Home for the top menu of community pages. You can test out editing in the sandbox if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the forum is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any user or the editors for help, too. Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and have fun! David Tribe 07:35, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

Hi Richard

I was looking over what you've been up to on the wiki and thought I'd drop by and suggest you give CZ:Article_Mechanics a going over, to perhaps prod things along in that direction. Cheers, Stephen Ewen 01:08, 4 December 2007 (CST)

Hi Stephen

Thanks a lot for the very useful lead. Having initiated the Aspartame stub, I'm pleased to have "boldly" dumped a big heap of very important information, which some of us can carve into a decent, useful article. A lot of lengthly quotations have to be reduced to one-liners, and much has to be summarized.

I will be interested to see if competent others share my view that the 1496 archived posts in aspartameNM@yahoogroups.com qualify as the best trustworthy source for information about aspartame, especially its toxicity issues. Two posts are citations in the Wikipedia Aspartame Controversy article.

Is the Aspartame stub already open to the public, or only to registered Citizendiums? In mutual service, Rich Murray

details on 6 epidemiological studies since 2004 on diet soda (mainly aspartame) correlations, as well as 14 other mainstream studies on aspartame toxicity since summer 2005: Murray 2007.11.27 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.htm Wednesday, November 14, 2007 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1490

"Of course, everyone chooses, as a natural priority, to enjoy peace, joy, and love by helping to find, quickly share, and positively act upon evidence about healthy and safe food, drink, and environment."

Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@comcast.net 505-501-2298 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505

http://RMForAll.blogspot.com new primary archive

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages group with 113 members, 1,496 posts in a public archive

The article is completely viewable to the public. As for sources, that is going to be the decision of probably Chemistry editors. Stephen Ewen 23:09, 4 December 2007 (CST)

Thanks, I didn't know that it was open to the public already. In the next two weeks I'll be editing it more to Citizendium standards, and remove any direct quotes that have the slightest chance of being problematic re copyright. Rich Murray 13:21, 5 December 2007 (MST)

Some tips

Dear Mr. Murray,

Here are a few items I'll hope you will bear in mind as you continue to work on CZ.

(1) Copyright infringement is absolutely forbidden. If you continue to post copyright infringement, you'll be banned from the website. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but we take this seriously. This is one main reason why methanol was deleted.

(2) Please do not post--certainly not to CZ articles--the e-mail addresses or other personal information of, well, anybody.

(3) Items (1) and (2) indicate to me that you might not realize exactly what we are doing here on CZ. When we post articles, we intend them not to be rough notes and observations that others can work into a coherent narrative. Rather, we expect each version of an article essentially to be able to stand on its own. What you posted on aspartame and methanol were not encyclopedia articles, as I'm sure you know, but only the roughest of notes that probably only you can fully understand. You're welcome to use CZ for such notes, but please restrict them to your own namespace. You could put them on a subpage of your user page. For instance, you could put them on User:Richard T Murray/Notes. Several people use subpages of their user pages, in this way, to develop articles.

Also, just a piece of advice -- it would help others to interact with you if you would reduce your user page (i.e., User:Richard T Murray) to just one (or two at most) coherent paragraphs about yourself. Much of the stuff on the page is very hard to follow. Thanks. --Larry Sanger 19:10, 12 August 2008 (CDT) (Editor-in-Chief)