Talk:Sue Savage-Rumbaugh

Attribution

A note to point out that, although this article is from Wikipedia, I wrote the second paragraph there and the rest has been completely changed. See the Wikipedia history. John Stephenson 03:25, 24 April 2007 (CDT)

Partial revert

I reverted　much of this edit because it introduced one factual inaccuracy and, in my view, went too far in making a claim that non-human apes have true linguistic ability. In detail: (1) bonobos are not closer to us than common chimps - they are equally related to us; (2) the claim that Kanzi's use of the keyboard constitutes linguistic communication, not just communication, is disputed; (3) I don't think the controversy just boils down to different definitions of language and evolution because, for example, Savage-Rumbaugh works in different theoretical frameworks from mainstream linguists, e.g. behaviorism. I will try to fill in some gaps in the article. John Stephenson 07:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted part of your revert, addressing all three of your points and correcting the inaccuracy that he is no longer alive. Yes, please add more material, and I will see to do so too. --Daniel Mietchen 08:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. The point you make about evolution needs expansion, I think. I removed the bit about the definition of language as I believe that is covered by the quote about behaviour (i.e. S-R sees language as a form of behaviour). John Stephenson 08:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

John, can you please try to link to the sources you cite? This would facilitate the evaluation of the statements derived from them. As an example, I paste here the link for "all it really is". Thanks! --Daniel Mietchen 10:39, 16 September 2009 (UTC)