Talk:Jeremy Bentham

Article name?

Is there some reason this isn't Jeremy Bentham? Howard C. Berkowitz 01:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Howard, I found this page as a legacy of Docmartin, with {{subpages}} on top but without template/data Metadata. As you know that gives some terrifying templates, so I decided to fill out the template/data Metadata page and to change nothing. I was tempted, though, to move the closing sentence to the talk page (and probably the Wikibox should be marked), but I resisted the temptation. --Paul Wormer 14:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree with your concerns. Had he actually given a citation to his work in the last sentence, it could be a reference, but the last sentence smacks of self-promotion. While I'm interested in, but not expert on, the topic, I think it would be good to have an article, but I'm very hesitant to have anything that he might criticize as his intellectual property -- although he seems to have donated it.

The text box makes me very nervous purely from a cooperative editing standpoint. I know some perfectly fine editors that use them, but I find they are very difficult to edit except when the article is approaching a final stage. I'm even cautious in using tables and multi-column formats unless I consider them necessary, but it's so easy to make a change to a colored text box and throw off the entire page that only their creator should probably change them. Howard C. Berkowitz 14:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I did not mean the textbox, but the templates you see when you have {{subpages}} on top and not yet a Metadata page. [After almost two years of CZ I still confuse terminology :-( ].

In the meantime I checked the WP article, the present article is completely different. If we make an ordinary citation out of the self-promotion, the article is probably OK (I'd never heard of Bentham, so I cannot judge its contents).

--Paul Wormer 16:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)