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Based on those results, I named the article '''Specific heat ratio'''. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 17:01, 3 July 2008 (CDT)
Based on those results, I named the article '''Specific heat ratio'''. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 17:01, 3 July 2008 (CDT)
== Comments/questions ==
Milt,
although you have a link to "specific heat", I think it would be helpful as a reminder to start with definition, like: "The specific heat is the amount of heat per amount of substance required to raise the temperature by one degree kelvin". It could go as an introductory sentence or as footnote. PS: when reading further I saw that you end the article by it. Maybe you should move the final section up to the beginning?
I would also remind the reader of the general thermodynamic relations
:<math>C_V=\left(\frac{\partial U}{\partial T}\right)_V</math>
:and
:<math>C_p=\left(\frac{\partial H}{\partial T}\right)_p </math>
because otherwise your comments about the ideal gas seem to appear out of the blue.
Why do you state that a diatomic molecule has 5 degrees of freedom at ''room temperature''? Do you want to exclude vibrational excitations?  But for atoms you excluded implicitly electronic excitations.  PS:  Reading one sentence further I found the answer. You are repeating yourself here on the degrees of freedom of a diatomic, this could be a few words shorter.
Cheers, --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 17:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia has an article on the same subject

This article was completely re-written from scratch but it probably still has some Wikipedia content in it. I was not a major contributor to the Wikipedia article. Milton Beychok 17:01, 3 July 2008 (CDT)

Okay. I don't know what that does to its eligibility for New Draft of the Week. I'll look for the rules.... (Or, better yet, someone who knows off the bat can answer.)Aleta Curry 18:54, 4 July 2008 (CDT)

Naming this article

I had a difficult time deciding whether to name this article Specific heat ratio or Heat capacity ratio. I finally used Google's book search function and Google's scholar search function on both names. The results were:

  • Book search: 7,070 books contained "specific heat ratio" and 3,820 books contained "heat capacity ratio".
  • Scholar search: 2,140,000 publications by scholars contained "specific heat ratio" and 595,000 publications contained "heat capacity ratio"

Based on those results, I named the article Specific heat ratio. Milton Beychok 17:01, 3 July 2008 (CDT)

Comments/questions

Milt,

although you have a link to "specific heat", I think it would be helpful as a reminder to start with definition, like: "The specific heat is the amount of heat per amount of substance required to raise the temperature by one degree kelvin". It could go as an introductory sentence or as footnote. PS: when reading further I saw that you end the article by it. Maybe you should move the final section up to the beginning?

I would also remind the reader of the general thermodynamic relations

and

because otherwise your comments about the ideal gas seem to appear out of the blue.

Why do you state that a diatomic molecule has 5 degrees of freedom at room temperature? Do you want to exclude vibrational excitations? But for atoms you excluded implicitly electronic excitations. PS: Reading one sentence further I found the answer. You are repeating yourself here on the degrees of freedom of a diatomic, this could be a few words shorter.

Cheers, --Paul Wormer 17:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)