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::::Well, sure, at least some of that info can go into the main page. But suppose the artist has a *really* breakthrough album, one that *merits* a thousand words all by itself? Shouldn't it have its own article *as well*? We're not restricted by page count here....[[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 13:14, 6 March 2008 (CST) | ::::Well, sure, at least some of that info can go into the main page. But suppose the artist has a *really* breakthrough album, one that *merits* a thousand words all by itself? Shouldn't it have its own article *as well*? We're not restricted by page count here....[[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 13:14, 6 March 2008 (CST) | ||
:::::My argument is that if the record was practically the thing that made the artist known, then it should probably go in the bio space. I would be hard pressed to say that there are any albums that deserve their own article. We're not restricted by article length, either. Just look at [[DNA]] or [[Life]]. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 13:25, 6 March 2008 (CST) | :::::My argument is that if the record was practically the thing that made the artist known, then it should probably go in the bio space. I would be hard pressed to say that there are any albums that deserve their own article. We're not restricted by article length, either. Just look at [[DNA]] or [[Life]]. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 13:25, 6 March 2008 (CST) | ||
== text searches -no limit to discography page either == | |||
I just did a search of "for the sake of the song", an album and song title, and the [[Townes Van Zandt]] discorgraphy page was the top hit. Also, the is no limit on the length of a discography page either, so important details about each album could be discussed there and on the main page. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 14:55, 6 March 2008 (CST) | |||
==Disambig page== | ==Disambig page== | ||
Since I'm an old geezer who lives in the Wild West and who has never, I think, listened to an entire Beatles song in his life, when *I* see or hear the word "revolver", I think of the gun that Hopalong Cassidy carries in his trusty holster. I'm sure that there are others who do too. So I think a disambig. page is urgently needed.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 13:10, 6 March 2008 (CST) | Since I'm an old geezer who lives in the Wild West and who has never, I think, listened to an entire Beatles song in his life, when *I* see or hear the word "revolver", I think of the gun that Hopalong Cassidy carries in his trusty holster. I'm sure that there are others who do too. So I think a disambig. page is urgently needed.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 13:10, 6 March 2008 (CST) | ||
:Hear, hear: as a geezer who was 13 in London at the time Beatlemania began, I first thought of the album but immediately assumed it must be about the gun. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 13:34, 6 March 2008 (CST) | :Hear, hear: as a geezer who was 13 in London at the time Beatlemania began, I first thought of the album but immediately assumed it must be about the gun. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 13:34, 6 March 2008 (CST) | ||
Revision as of 15:55, 6 March 2008
New name?
This would definitely be better at Revolver (album) (or maybe even Revolver (Beatles album), if other artists have an album of the same name). J. Noel Chiappa 11:59, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- I second; the common abstraction of "Revolver" is the six-shooter with bullets. This should probably be like the Led Zepplin case, where there's a discography. --Robert W King 12:07, 6 March 2008 (CST)
Discographies: Albums
We have not been making article pages for albums. At present, these should be listed on the "Discography" subpage of the The Beatles cluster. Examples of this can be found at Townes Van Zandt and Lucinda Williams, among others. David E. Volk 12:09, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- Good point - as long as some sort of search function can find it there. J. Noel Chiappa 12:41, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- I don't know if I agree with this. I myself am never gonna write an article about a specific album, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone else wanted to write about, oh, let's say the first Joan Baez or Bob Dylan album, in which he/she would be doing much *more* than just listing the songs as in a discography. In other words, giving a historical perspective on the time it was introduced, how it was a breakthrough, what it revealed about the singer, its influence on others, blah blah blah. Just the way there's a difference between a bibliography for Donald Hamilton, which just lists his books, and an individual article about each book, as, for instance, The Interlopers. So I don't think we should take an early, dogmatic stand that an article about an album *can't* be a stand-alone.... Hayford Peirce 13:01, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- If something was such a significant part of a person's life, shouldn't it be a part of their normal page? There's no faststanding rule that says information about a particular defining element (e.g. book or album) can't go in the articlespace of the individual. --Robert W King 13:04, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- Well, sure, at least some of that info can go into the main page. But suppose the artist has a *really* breakthrough album, one that *merits* a thousand words all by itself? Shouldn't it have its own article *as well*? We're not restricted by page count here....Hayford Peirce 13:14, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- My argument is that if the record was practically the thing that made the artist known, then it should probably go in the bio space. I would be hard pressed to say that there are any albums that deserve their own article. We're not restricted by article length, either. Just look at DNA or Life. --Robert W King 13:25, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- Well, sure, at least some of that info can go into the main page. But suppose the artist has a *really* breakthrough album, one that *merits* a thousand words all by itself? Shouldn't it have its own article *as well*? We're not restricted by page count here....Hayford Peirce 13:14, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- If something was such a significant part of a person's life, shouldn't it be a part of their normal page? There's no faststanding rule that says information about a particular defining element (e.g. book or album) can't go in the articlespace of the individual. --Robert W King 13:04, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- I don't know if I agree with this. I myself am never gonna write an article about a specific album, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone else wanted to write about, oh, let's say the first Joan Baez or Bob Dylan album, in which he/she would be doing much *more* than just listing the songs as in a discography. In other words, giving a historical perspective on the time it was introduced, how it was a breakthrough, what it revealed about the singer, its influence on others, blah blah blah. Just the way there's a difference between a bibliography for Donald Hamilton, which just lists his books, and an individual article about each book, as, for instance, The Interlopers. So I don't think we should take an early, dogmatic stand that an article about an album *can't* be a stand-alone.... Hayford Peirce 13:01, 6 March 2008 (CST)
text searches -no limit to discography page either
I just did a search of "for the sake of the song", an album and song title, and the Townes Van Zandt discorgraphy page was the top hit. Also, the is no limit on the length of a discography page either, so important details about each album could be discussed there and on the main page. David E. Volk 14:55, 6 March 2008 (CST)
Disambig page
Since I'm an old geezer who lives in the Wild West and who has never, I think, listened to an entire Beatles song in his life, when *I* see or hear the word "revolver", I think of the gun that Hopalong Cassidy carries in his trusty holster. I'm sure that there are others who do too. So I think a disambig. page is urgently needed.... Hayford Peirce 13:10, 6 March 2008 (CST)
- Hear, hear: as a geezer who was 13 in London at the time Beatlemania began, I first thought of the album but immediately assumed it must be about the gun. Ro Thorpe 13:34, 6 March 2008 (CST)