Talk:Kiev/Archive 1

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The "Kyiv" versus "Kiev" naming controversy continues on Wikipedia, where I have posted some entries (as Wikipedia user:shmorhay) to one particular page there --

   Wikipedia Kyiv vs. Kiev talk page

While I am Ukrainian-American, my area of expertise is in computer technology, not Eastern European affairs, so I would be very grateful if someone with recognized expertise in this area could tackle this issue. I will defer to the rulings of the more knowledgeable, but some "adult supervision" on this topic is definitely required.

user:Bohdan Leonid Shmorhay

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Well, I for one love good Chicken Kiev (not the awful frozen stuff), so I would hate to see it renamed Chicken Kyiv.... On the other hand, Peking Duck has not been renamed Beijing Duck in Chinese restaurants as far as I know.... Hayford Peirce 18:51, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

It turns out that the name Chicken Kiev itself has an interesting cultural history, and even political ramifications --

Wikipedia's Chicken Kiev article

As you can well imagine, Ukrainian-Americans were not pleased by Bush senior's "Chicken Kiev" speech, and saw it as an American presidential directive to "keep to your place, and don't make trouble for your overlords":

Text of Bush Sr. Chicken Kiev speech

The critical lines were: "Americans will not support those who seek independence in order to replace a far-off tyranny [based in Moscow] with a local despotism [based in Kyiv]. They will not aid those who promote a suicidal nationalism based upon ethnic hatred."

Oddly enough, that was one recipe my mom never made, although we all managed to gain lots of weight from her other stuff.

And needless to say, none of us never considered voting for a Bush.

User:Bohdan Leonid Shmorhay