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Is the first sentence correct? My understanding is that the UN in 194''7'' passed a (probably not legally binding) resolution saying there ''should'' be two states with boundaries as it laid down, but it proceeded no further, and its representatives were ignored by the British authorities when they turned up to take over at the expiry of the mandate. The Jewish leaders proclaimed the state of Israel unilaterally the day before, and Palestinian leaders proclaimed their own state some time later. I'm not sure whether either proclamation specified borders. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 15:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Is the first sentence correct? My understanding is that the UN in 194''7'' passed a (probably not legally binding) resolution saying there ''should'' be two states with boundaries as it laid down, but it proceeded no further, and its representatives were ignored by the British authorities when they turned up to take over at the expiry of the mandate. The Jewish leaders proclaimed the state of Israel unilaterally the day before, and Palestinian leaders proclaimed their own state some time later. I'm not sure whether either proclamation specified borders. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 15:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:First, I'm delighted to have your participation. If the Middle East can't trigger CZ activity and debate, nothing can (studiously ignoring [[homeopathy]]). 
:As far as the borders, UN General Assembly Resolution 181 [http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/res181.htm] is extremely detailed. It is fair to say, however, that the execution plan did not proceed smoothly; I have not researched how the British authorities did or did not work with it beyond Lapierre and Collins' history, ''Oh Jerusalem!'', my paperback copy of which fell apart and is no longer on the shelf.
:Would you like to create or extend a more detailed section on the early days, reflecting the UN action and the reaction to it? Also, could you elaborate on "probably not legally binding", recognizing that it was in relatively uncharted ground in international law. The argument seems to be that the [[1922 British Mandate of Palestine]] (I'm adding the date to distinguish it from the Allied Powers agreement of 1918, which I have yet to find) was issued by the [[League of Nations]], and the UN was the successor to the League [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 15:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

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Is the first sentence correct? My understanding is that the UN in 1947 passed a (probably not legally binding) resolution saying there should be two states with boundaries as it laid down, but it proceeded no further, and its representatives were ignored by the British authorities when they turned up to take over at the expiry of the mandate. The Jewish leaders proclaimed the state of Israel unilaterally the day before, and Palestinian leaders proclaimed their own state some time later. I'm not sure whether either proclamation specified borders. Peter Jackson 15:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

First, I'm delighted to have your participation. If the Middle East can't trigger CZ activity and debate, nothing can (studiously ignoring homeopathy).
As far as the borders, UN General Assembly Resolution 181 [1] is extremely detailed. It is fair to say, however, that the execution plan did not proceed smoothly; I have not researched how the British authorities did or did not work with it beyond Lapierre and Collins' history, Oh Jerusalem!, my paperback copy of which fell apart and is no longer on the shelf.
Would you like to create or extend a more detailed section on the early days, reflecting the UN action and the reaction to it? Also, could you elaborate on "probably not legally binding", recognizing that it was in relatively uncharted ground in international law. The argument seems to be that the 1922 British Mandate of Palestine (I'm adding the date to distinguish it from the Allied Powers agreement of 1918, which I have yet to find) was issued by the League of Nations, and the UN was the successor to the League Howard C. Berkowitz 15:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)