Talk:Haber process

Article Checklist for "Haber process"

Workgroup category or categories	Chemistry Workgroup [Editors asked to check categories]
Article status	Developing article: beyond a stub, but incomplete
Underlinked article?	No
Basic cleanup done?	Yes
Checklist last edited by	Oliver Smith 08:57, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

To learn how to fill out this checklist, please see CZ:The Article Checklist.

---

Basic Cleanup in checklist

I plan to do this after the article has more information. At the moment, as it is only a list of headings and a couple of sentences, I think that it would be more appropriate to format it after I have added something to all the sections. Oliver Smith 05:47, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

OK, I've finished the article cleanup. Oliver Smith 08:48, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

points of attention

Oliver, I have a few points of attention: the electrolysis of water is one. But far more important is the occurrence of aqeous water. It seems an oxymoron but water is dissolved in water as are ions. Keep in mind the charge-distribution within the water molecule. So hydrogen-bonding is the cause of the strange behavior of water as a liquid: having its highest density as 4˚C and not its freezing point, and a rather extreme bioling point. For that one water molecule cannot ever exist, i.e. H⁺ = H₃O⁺, but even that isn;t the true picture as every protonium is caged by a cage of other water molecules - all responding to the disturbance in the charge distribution. The least number of water molecules acting as a single unit is 6 - 9. This should be reflected in the proposed reaction mechanism in he Haber process. If only by mentioning H⁺ = H₃O⁺ in stead of a proton. The hydroxyl is of course caged much in the same way as the protonium is. Robert Tito |  Talk  19:07, 25 May 2007 (CDT)