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* World population would not be 6 billion, but considerably less.
* World population would not be 6 billion, but considerably less.
--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 21:05, 13 March 2008 (CDT)
--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 21:05, 13 March 2008 (CDT)
:Paul, this is a paragraph excerpted from my [[Ammonia production]] article:
:"The [[Haber process]], which is the production of ammonia by combining hydrogen and [[nitrogen]], was first patented by [[Fritz Haber]] in 1908. In 1910, [[Carl Bosch]], while working for the [[Germany|German]] chemical company BASF, successfully commercialized the process and secured further patents. It was first used on an industrial scale by the Germans during World War I. Since then, the process has often been referred to as the [[Haber-Bosch  process]]."
Would adding that paragraph be sufficient? If not, please add to it here on the Talk page and I will then work it into this article. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:51, 13 March 2008 (CDT)

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Created a new Chemical engineering article to replace one that had been deleted

This is only my second article in CZ and I consider myself to still be a newcomer. Please feel free to offer any and all constructive criticisms of this article.

In my opinion, it still needs:

  • More references
  • A "Timeline" subpage outlining the history of chemical engineering as a recognized discipline and profession.
  • Internal links to articles devoted to other branches of engineering suc as Mechanical engineering, Civil engineering, etc. I intend to create a "Related articles" subpage and list such internal links as soon as possible.
  • Start and populate a "Bibliography" subpage

If there are any other Chemical engineers in CZ, please help. - Milton Beychok 22:55, 23 January 2008 (CST)

Most of the items listed above as needed have now been done

I crossed out the above items which have now been done. - Milton Beychok 12:40, 30 January 2008 (CST)

Pre-Aprroval suggestions

Milton, it is shaping up very nicely. The History section in particular has a wonder flow to it. I was wondering if the long list of items, that repeats something like "design, operation and management" could be written in a paragraph form to remove the redundant phrases.

Some some items needing correction (in History section) "quotes note the change"
P1: However it use was not widespread --> "its" use P2: hazardous byproduct --> "the" hazardous byproduct"s"

P2?: a sentence ends with "was failed", which isn't quite correct.

Further down, change fertilisers to fertilizers? David E. Volk 09:23, 13 March 2008 (CDT)

David, I agree with all of your comments and have made the appropriate changes. Thanks for your help. Milton Beychok 10:52, 13 March 2008 (CDT)

Approval process started

Milton, I have started the approval process for you. David E. Volk 13:38, 13 March 2008 (CDT)

Haber Bosch

I definitely feel that Haber (the chemist) and Bosch (the engineer) must appear in the history of chemical engineering. Without their nitrogen binding process:

  • World War I would have ended much quicker.
  • World population would not be 6 billion, but considerably less.

--Paul Wormer 21:05, 13 March 2008 (CDT)

Paul, this is a paragraph excerpted from my Ammonia production article:
"The Haber process, which is the production of ammonia by combining hydrogen and nitrogen, was first patented by Fritz Haber in 1908. In 1910, Carl Bosch, while working for the German chemical company BASF, successfully commercialized the process and secured further patents. It was first used on an industrial scale by the Germans during World War I. Since then, the process has often been referred to as the Haber-Bosch process."

Would adding that paragraph be sufficient? If not, please add to it here on the Talk page and I will then work it into this article. Regards, Milton Beychok 21:51, 13 March 2008 (CDT)