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After projective measurement the state has become pure, i.e., <math>\scriptstyle \rho'=\frac{P_i \rho P_i}{{\rm tr}(P_i \rho P_i)}</math>, describe a density that is  a delta-function with as peak the pure state &psi;<sub>i</sub>. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 20:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
After projective measurement the state has become pure, i.e., <math>\scriptstyle \rho'=\frac{P_i \rho P_i}{{\rm tr}(P_i \rho P_i)}</math>, describe a density that is  a delta-function with as peak the pure state &psi;<sub>i</sub>. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 20:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
:Beste Paul, I'm not familiar with the terminology 'impure state', so I'm not sure how to respond. I guess this is what some people would call a superposition state? Or could it be synonymous with [[mixed state]]? [[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 01:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
::Beste Hendra, apparently you know quite well what a pure state is, as I noticed when I read your article [[mixed state]] (which I hadn't seen before you linked to it in your answer).  So, yes, an impure state is the same as a mixed state. I believe "impure" is the term used by Messiah. Groetjes, --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 16:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
== Typo? ==
Second paragraph:
:for all <math>\scriptstyle \rho \,\in\, \mathcal{D}(\mathcal{K})</math>,
Should this not be:
:for all <math>\scriptstyle \rho \,\in\, \mathcal{D}(\mathcal{H})</math>?
Or do I miss something completely?
--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 20:40, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
:Oops, typo! Thanks for spotting that one. It's been corrected now. [[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 01:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

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Comment on pure v. impure states

In usual textbooks of QM one distinguishes pure and impure states (at the moment I do not have access to any text on QM, I'm writing from memory, so I cannot quote sources). I would write:

An impure state of a quantum system is represented on a Hilbert space by a non-negative definite trace class operator on with trace equal to one. Such operators are called density operators.

After projective measurement the state has become pure, i.e., , describe a density that is a delta-function with as peak the pure state ψi. --Paul Wormer 20:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Beste Paul, I'm not familiar with the terminology 'impure state', so I'm not sure how to respond. I guess this is what some people would call a superposition state? Or could it be synonymous with mixed state? Hendra I. Nurdin 01:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Beste Hendra, apparently you know quite well what a pure state is, as I noticed when I read your article mixed state (which I hadn't seen before you linked to it in your answer). So, yes, an impure state is the same as a mixed state. I believe "impure" is the term used by Messiah. Groetjes, --Paul Wormer 16:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Typo?

Second paragraph:

for all ,

Should this not be:

for all ?

Or do I miss something completely? --Paul Wormer 20:40, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Oops, typo! Thanks for spotting that one. It's been corrected now. Hendra I. Nurdin 01:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)