User talk:David H. Barrett: Difference between revisions
imported>Stephen Ewen |
Pat Palmer (talk | contribs) m (Text replacement - "compartmented control system" to "compartmented control system") |
||
| (6 intermediate revisions by 5 users not shown) | |||
| Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
==Welcome!== | ==Welcome!== | ||
{{Getting Started}} | {{Getting Started}} | ||
{{TOC|right}} | |||
'''Welcome to the ''Citizendium!''''' We hope you will contribute [[CZ:Be Bold|boldly]] and well. Here are pointers for a [[CZ:Quick Start|quick start]]. You'll probably want to know [[CZ:The Author Role|how to get started as an author]]. Just look at [[CZ:Getting Started]] for other helpful "startup" links, and [[CZ:Home]] for the top menu of community pages. Be sure to stay abreast of events via [https://lists.purdue.edu/mailman/listinfo/citizendium-l the Citizendium-L (broadcast) mailing list] (do join!) and [http://blog.citizendium.org the blog]. Please also join the [[CZ:Mailing lists|workgroup mailing list(s)]] that concern your particular interests. You can test out [[CZ:How to edit an article|editing]] in the [[CZ:Sandbox|sandbox]] if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the [http://forum.citizendium.org/ forums] is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any [[:Category:CZ Constables|constable]] for help, too. Me, for instance! Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 09:51, 8 July 2008 (CDT) | '''Welcome to the ''Citizendium!''''' We hope you will contribute [[CZ:Be Bold|boldly]] and well. Here are pointers for a [[CZ:Quick Start|quick start]]. You'll probably want to know [[CZ:The Author Role|how to get started as an author]]. Just look at [[CZ:Getting Started]] for other helpful "startup" links, and [[CZ:Home]] for the top menu of community pages. Be sure to stay abreast of events via [https://lists.purdue.edu/mailman/listinfo/citizendium-l the Citizendium-L (broadcast) mailing list] (do join!) and [http://blog.citizendium.org the blog]. Please also join the [[CZ:Mailing lists|workgroup mailing list(s)]] that concern your particular interests. You can test out [[CZ:How to edit an article|editing]] in the [[CZ:Sandbox|sandbox]] if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the [http://forum.citizendium.org/ forums] is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any [[:Category:CZ Constables|constable]] for help, too. Me, for instance! Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 09:51, 8 July 2008 (CDT) | ||
::hey welcome from a History editor. We really need help in Australian history--the most basic stuff. As a Yank I can edit it but I'm not ready to start writing it. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 10:42, 8 July 2008 (CDT) | ::hey welcome from a History editor. We really need help in Australian history--the most basic stuff. As a Yank I can edit it but I'm not ready to start writing it. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 10:42, 8 July 2008 (CDT) | ||
| Line 25: | Line 24: | ||
David, | David, | ||
The U.S. military has a number of conventions, which admittedly may not be standard English, but is what the relevant documents use. I've written about some of the conventions in [[classified information]] and | The U.S. military has a number of conventions, which admittedly may not be standard English, but is what the relevant documents use. I've written about some of the conventions in [[classified information]] and compartmented control system, but, in general, a program name such as COMBAT SHADOW, SENIOR YEAR, RIVET JOINT, etc., will be in ALL CAPS. Most security markings will be ALL CAPS, so a document might be marked SECRET/CCO or TOP SECRET/SPECAT/POLO STEP. | ||
To change this for reasons of general editorial style can easily break links. Please do not change the capitalization in military references unless you are certain that the organization that uses it has a different convention. | To change this for reasons of general editorial style can easily break links. Please do not change the capitalization in military references unless you are certain that the organization that uses it has a different convention. | ||
| Line 33: | Line 32: | ||
[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 14:58, 13 August 2008 (CDT) | [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 14:58, 13 August 2008 (CDT) | ||
:I grant that the military itself is not consistent. If you look at | :I grant that the military itself is not consistent. If you look at compartmented control system--[[classified information]] is the less frightening predecessor--you'll find references to the [[Director of National Intelligence]], [[Department of Defense]], and other material that specify the standard. | ||
:Believe me, there are times where no one knows how to mark something. There are enough nuances, however, that some forgeries are immediately apparent. For example, there was an "expose" by a Professor Ganser, saying that U.S. "Gladio" stay-behind networks were in every country of Western Europe. In fact, there was a Gladio specifically for Italy. One of his major "references", was an alleged "Field Manual 31-21B", or a TOP SECRET supplement to the Special Forces Operational Techniques manual. The problem was that the Army Field Manuals are not used for TOP SECRET. There is, indeed, a SECRET supplement, 31-21A, which I have read...and about which I can't go into detail. Now, if exactly the same material was titled a "European Command Contingency Plan", that would have been an appropriate document for that classification level. | :Believe me, there are times where no one knows how to mark something. There are enough nuances, however, that some forgeries are immediately apparent. For example, there was an "expose" by a Professor Ganser, saying that U.S. "Gladio" stay-behind networks were in every country of Western Europe. In fact, there was a Gladio specifically for Italy. One of his major "references", was an alleged "Field Manual 31-21B", or a TOP SECRET supplement to the Special Forces Operational Techniques manual. The problem was that the Army Field Manuals are not used for TOP SECRET. There is, indeed, a SECRET supplement, 31-21A, which I have read...and about which I can't go into detail. Now, if exactly the same material was titled a "European Command Contingency Plan", that would have been an appropriate document for that classification level. | ||
| Line 49: | Line 48: | ||
==How to sign fully== | ==How to sign fully== | ||
Hi Dave and welcome. To sign use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> which for me produces [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 17:24, 21 August 2008 (CDT) | Hi Dave and welcome. To sign use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> which for me produces [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 17:24, 21 August 2008 (CDT) | ||
:Many thanks! [[User:David H. Barrett|David H. Barrett]] 15:14, 26 August 2008 (CDT) (Hey! It works!) | |||
== Party! You're invited! == | |||
Yo, David! Homeboy! I know it's Wednesday where you are!! Please join the [[CZ:Monthly Write-a-Thon|Party]]. Enter and sign in, please! [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 19:45, 2 September 2008 (CDT) | |||
== name and date == | |||
Hi David, glad to have you aboard! | |||
You don't write out your name the way you did in your query to Stephen. You just type four ~ (tildes) in a row, and that automatically generates your name and date. Cheers! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 16:56, 26 September 2008 (CDT) | |||
:PS -- I'll see if I can fix the spelling stuff.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 16:56, 26 September 2008 (CDT) | |||
== Ether == | |||
Hi David, I haven't seen much of you lately, I hope you are still interested in the CZ project. You did a nice job of proofreading [[Maxwell]] and I wonder if I can impose on you again? I wrote [[ether (physics)]] and there is much room for linguistic improvement. Can I ask you to have a peek at it? --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 12:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 10:42, 2 September 2024
Welcome!
| Citizendium Getting Started | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Quick Start | About us | Help system | Start a new article | For Wikipedians | |||
Welcome to the Citizendium! We hope you will contribute boldly and well. Here are pointers for a quick start. You'll probably want to know how to get started as an author. Just look at CZ:Getting Started for other helpful "startup" links, and CZ:Home for the top menu of community pages. Be sure to stay abreast of events via the Citizendium-L (broadcast) mailing list (do join!) and the blog. Please also join the workgroup mailing list(s) that concern your particular interests. You can test out editing in the sandbox if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the forums is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any constable for help, too. Me, for instance! Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and have fun! D. Matt Innis 09:51, 8 July 2008 (CDT)
- hey welcome from a History editor. We really need help in Australian history--the most basic stuff. As a Yank I can edit it but I'm not ready to start writing it. Richard Jensen 10:42, 8 July 2008 (CDT)
It's a party, and you're invited!
Hi ! Your CZ Write-a-Thon MC here. Please head over to the Party Room and add yourself to the list of revelers in whatever category you think appropriate. Thanks for contributing! Aleta Curry 18:43, 6 August 2008 (CDT)
From your friendly neighbourhood mistress of ceremonies
I signed you in at The August Party Do join us on Wednesday September 2nd for what I hope will be a very active party with music, music, music. Theme: "My Favourite Band" (or, 'ensemble' or 'group' or 'orchestra' or 'singer' or 'recording' or...? Aleta Curry 23:17, 7 August 2008 (CDT)
Maxwell
David, I noticed that you improved some of my English in Isaac Newton. I appreciate that. Could you also have a quick glance at James Clerk Maxwell, especially the first part (his biography)? The second part is probably too tedious for a non-scientist, so I don't dare to ask you to read that. I feel that there is lots of room of improvement in my wording, so I would be grateful if you could have a look.--Paul Wormer 03:49, 9 August 2008 (CDT)
- Thank you very much! --Paul Wormer 02:25, 10 August 2008 (CDT)
Reverted changes
David,
The U.S. military has a number of conventions, which admittedly may not be standard English, but is what the relevant documents use. I've written about some of the conventions in classified information and compartmented control system, but, in general, a program name such as COMBAT SHADOW, SENIOR YEAR, RIVET JOINT, etc., will be in ALL CAPS. Most security markings will be ALL CAPS, so a document might be marked SECRET/CCO or TOP SECRET/SPECAT/POLO STEP.
To change this for reasons of general editorial style can easily break links. Please do not change the capitalization in military references unless you are certain that the organization that uses it has a different convention.
While it might not be the case here, CZ naming conventions force some breaking of the military names: I can't, for example, create an article under the proper name of AN/SPG-62, but chose to do SPG-62 as the article name, piping reference to appear with the AN/ or other prefix, such as TSEC/
Howard C. Berkowitz 14:58, 13 August 2008 (CDT)
- I grant that the military itself is not consistent. If you look at compartmented control system--classified information is the less frightening predecessor--you'll find references to the Director of National Intelligence, Department of Defense, and other material that specify the standard.
- Believe me, there are times where no one knows how to mark something. There are enough nuances, however, that some forgeries are immediately apparent. For example, there was an "expose" by a Professor Ganser, saying that U.S. "Gladio" stay-behind networks were in every country of Western Europe. In fact, there was a Gladio specifically for Italy. One of his major "references", was an alleged "Field Manual 31-21B", or a TOP SECRET supplement to the Special Forces Operational Techniques manual. The problem was that the Army Field Manuals are not used for TOP SECRET. There is, indeed, a SECRET supplement, 31-21A, which I have read...and about which I can't go into detail. Now, if exactly the same material was titled a "European Command Contingency Plan", that would have been an appropriate document for that classification level.
- Back when I dealt frequently such things, I had a rubber stamp made up, which I gave as a Christmas present to several colleague and kept one myself. It was quite in the format of a special handling stamp, but read "DESTROY BEFORE READING". We would randomly stamp it on silly yet classified documents, and caused all manner of hysterics.
- Oh -- I did go back and fixed some typos you found, and found another one we both hand missed. Thanks. Howard C. Berkowitz 16:01, 13 August 2008 (CDT)
Welcome
Glad to see another history guy round these parts. Welcome! Denis Cavanagh 17:25, 16 August 2008 (CDT)
Duffy is a very common name over here, but as you may imagine I have no idea what it means! Anyway, if we share interests in certain areas I'd be more than happy to work with you on something. Denis Cavanagh 07:13, 19 August 2008 (CDT)
How to sign fully
Hi Dave and welcome. To sign use ~~~~ which for me produces Stephen Ewen 17:24, 21 August 2008 (CDT)
- Many thanks! David H. Barrett 15:14, 26 August 2008 (CDT) (Hey! It works!)
Party! You're invited!
Yo, David! Homeboy! I know it's Wednesday where you are!! Please join the Party. Enter and sign in, please! Aleta Curry 19:45, 2 September 2008 (CDT)
name and date
Hi David, glad to have you aboard!
You don't write out your name the way you did in your query to Stephen. You just type four ~ (tildes) in a row, and that automatically generates your name and date. Cheers! Hayford Peirce 16:56, 26 September 2008 (CDT)
- PS -- I'll see if I can fix the spelling stuff.... Hayford Peirce 16:56, 26 September 2008 (CDT)
Ether
Hi David, I haven't seen much of you lately, I hope you are still interested in the CZ project. You did a nice job of proofreading Maxwell and I wonder if I can impose on you again? I wrote ether (physics) and there is much room for linguistic improvement. Can I ask you to have a peek at it? --Paul Wormer 12:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)