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==Most important?==
''The'' most important?  Then what counts as "modern times"?  Frege and Russell/Whitehead each have as strong a claim as Goedel. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 10:03, 4 June 2008 (CDT)
: For 'modern times', I was sort of meaning the 20th century.
: As to the magnitude, I was echoing a quote I saw in the Stanford EP: "established, beyond comparison, as the most important logician of our times," Solomon Feferman (Feferman 1986). That article also describes Godel as having "founded the modern, metamathematical era in mathematical logic."
: I would say he's definitely more important that Russell/Whitehead, because he proved that their whole system (and the whole Hilbert program) was to some degree built on quicksand. <s>FWIW</s>For what it's worth, I would think Turing was more important (in terms of mathematical logic - to me, all computability/computing stuff is a subset of mathematical logic) than Russell/Whitehead, no? I mean, not just in everyday implications (computers), but also the whole computable numbers thing, the [[halting problem]], yadda-yadda.
: Frege I don't know so much about, maybe he's as important at Godel. [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 10:31, 4 June 2008 (CDT)

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Most important?

The most important? Then what counts as "modern times"? Frege and Russell/Whitehead each have as strong a claim as Goedel. --Larry Sanger 10:03, 4 June 2008 (CDT)

For 'modern times', I was sort of meaning the 20th century.
As to the magnitude, I was echoing a quote I saw in the Stanford EP: "established, beyond comparison, as the most important logician of our times," Solomon Feferman (Feferman 1986). That article also describes Godel as having "founded the modern, metamathematical era in mathematical logic."
I would say he's definitely more important that Russell/Whitehead, because he proved that their whole system (and the whole Hilbert program) was to some degree built on quicksand. FWIWFor what it's worth, I would think Turing was more important (in terms of mathematical logic - to me, all computability/computing stuff is a subset of mathematical logic) than Russell/Whitehead, no? I mean, not just in everyday implications (computers), but also the whole computable numbers thing, the halting problem, yadda-yadda.
Frege I don't know so much about, maybe he's as important at Godel. J. Noel Chiappa 10:31, 4 June 2008 (CDT)