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Second language learners who are scantly literate in their first language certainly have unique sets of challenges, both for their own learning and for educators. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 02:10, 7 March 2008 (CST) | Second language learners who are scantly literate in their first language certainly have unique sets of challenges, both for their own learning and for educators. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 02:10, 7 March 2008 (CST) | ||
:Yes and two noteworthy points: (1) LESLLA are the only research group specifically addressing immigrant needs; (2) research on the language of people without formal education is essential because linguists need to factor out the effects of classroom learning (e.g. effect of spelling on pronunciation). I might try to include this in the article. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 02:26, 7 March 2008 (CST) | :Yes and two noteworthy points: (1) LESLLA are the only research group specifically addressing immigrant needs; (2) research on the language of people without formal education is essential because linguists need to factor out the effects of classroom learning (e.g. effect of spelling on pronunciation). I might try to include this in the article. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 02:26, 7 March 2008 (CST) | ||
::A recent challenging student...had re-arrived in the U.S. at age 23, was exposed to English in school in the U.S. for 8 months at age 7 and then returned to his Arabic-speaking country; there, unusually isolated, he developed his very own consistently logical "English" stemming from his intense desire to know it. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 03:07, 7 March 2008 (CST) | |||
:::That's interesting... at that age, kids tend to lose languages once they're outside where it's spoken. But I suppose isolation could lead to him keeping it if he didn't want to associate himself with the locals. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 03:10, 7 March 2008 (CST) | |||
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Originally I placed a note here indicating that though this article was the same as the Wikipedia one, the latter was 100% written by me and therefore no Wikipedia credit on the article was needed. However, within hours the Wikipedia version was tagged for deletion and then wiped by a couple of anonymous users, so the Citizendium version now needs no Wikipedia authorship tag on this Talk page. For more information on this matter and how it finally led to me to quit Wikipedia, see my blog. John Stephenson 21:38, 6 March 2008 (CST)
Interesting organization....
Second language learners who are scantly literate in their first language certainly have unique sets of challenges, both for their own learning and for educators. Stephen Ewen 02:10, 7 March 2008 (CST)
- Yes and two noteworthy points: (1) LESLLA are the only research group specifically addressing immigrant needs; (2) research on the language of people without formal education is essential because linguists need to factor out the effects of classroom learning (e.g. effect of spelling on pronunciation). I might try to include this in the article. John Stephenson 02:26, 7 March 2008 (CST)
- A recent challenging student...had re-arrived in the U.S. at age 23, was exposed to English in school in the U.S. for 8 months at age 7 and then returned to his Arabic-speaking country; there, unusually isolated, he developed his very own consistently logical "English" stemming from his intense desire to know it. Stephen Ewen 03:07, 7 March 2008 (CST)
- That's interesting... at that age, kids tend to lose languages once they're outside where it's spoken. But I suppose isolation could lead to him keeping it if he didn't want to associate himself with the locals. John Stephenson 03:10, 7 March 2008 (CST)
- A recent challenging student...had re-arrived in the U.S. at age 23, was exposed to English in school in the U.S. for 8 months at age 7 and then returned to his Arabic-speaking country; there, unusually isolated, he developed his very own consistently logical "English" stemming from his intense desire to know it. Stephen Ewen 03:07, 7 March 2008 (CST)