Talk:Origins and architecture of the Taj Mahal

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To do list

1. The big POV deficiency is the lack of significant researched and balanced appraisal of 'the contribution of Hindu building traditions and architecture to the building' - It's quite difficult to do this one. Hindu builders were used for their labour in the construction, but what impact did Hindu 'ideas' or 'designers' have on the building? Mughal society encouraged a meritocracy where Hindus could hold offices of state, but the system was slanted towards those of Persian or Timurid origin, and the Hindu influence might have been airbrushed out of a lot of the contemporary accounts. Also, there isn't a prescriptive islamic architectural traditions, it always borrowed and adapted local forms, so the floral designs can have a meaning to both islamic and hindu societies simultaneously. The big worry with this one is the issue has been politicised - read P.N. Oak and The true story of the Taj Mahal. India, now increasingly nationalistic in certain quarters, appears to be attempting to either deny or downplay its Islamic history in the current political climate where India and Pakistan are pointing nuclear weapons at each other. The Taj as a 'symbol of India' has got caught up in all this - not every source is as ridiculous as Knapp and Oak, but the potential for this bias is there in a lot of material. I will use Asher for some of this as she has a good section in the start of her book about the 'origins of mughal architecture' as a whole and deals with it quite well.
2. Free diagram needed for 17th Century Agra - List each garden in the key and provide redlinks to the most important - such as the Agra Fort, Ram Bagh and Itmad-Ud-Daulah's Tomb
3. Actually the influence of Itmad-Ud-Daulah's Tomb is rather undersold in the article at the moment - need further reading to establish clearer links.
4. Photos needed of each section of the Taj complex mentioned in the architecture section.
5. The Taj Complex map needs revising to include some of this measurement analysis. It also needs a scale and some letters plonking on so we can refer to its parts in the caption
6. There's a few ommissions from the description of the complex - the external tombs and mosque outside of the walls.
7. The description of the mausoleum itself isn't finished and needs to include the dome interior and exterior, chattris, a plan of one of the levels, a description of the calligraphic and carving programme and it hierarchical nature.
8. The Jilauakhana and plinth need a description and explanation.
9. Once all that's done, the thing needs significant pruning down to size, keeping just the important and interesting facts. My prose is a bit wordy so that always needs addressing.
10. Then the lead needs rewriting entirely from scratch based on the important thrust of the article. --Russ McGinn 07:02, 24 September 2007 (CDT)

Article name

Why isn't this material integrated into Taj Mahal (or, if too voluminous, into subpages of that)? J. Noel Chiappa 14:47, 11 April 2008 (CDT)

Hmm - well I'd always intended the main Taj article to essentially be a summary article of this one and another article dealing with the post-construction history and the Taj's place in culture since then. So yes, to voluminous - the main article could deal more appropriately with current events and the like. To put this article, which already contains many subpages into a subpage of Taj Mahal would then create sub-subpages. Not sure whether that's a good thing - alternatively of course, all of the subpages from here could just be direct subpages from the main Taj article - I'd be comfortable with that either way. Perhaps you might seek some advice from the policy makers on that. Regards --Russ McGinn 12:43, 14 April 2008 (CDT)

Fringe theory

Would it be appropriate to mention the claims by some extreme Hindu nationalists that the whole Shah Jahan story is Muslim propaganda and that the building is a centuries older Hindu temple and was originally called Tejo Mahalaya? Peter Jackson 11:05, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

A quick check of Google books shows that this hasn't gained much traction. With that in mind I'd be very cautious about adding it to the article. Richard Nevell 19:14, 7 February 2013 (UTC)