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==Guilt in U.S. law==
== Welcome back! ==
John:  I don't want to sound bitchy, so please don't take this that way, but what you did makes the three figures in the 'guilt' article into solid black boxes on my monitor, as the CZ logo was in the Main Page's talk page not long ago.  And if you would put them under each other, instead of side-by-side, the full width of the text would fit on my screen and so be readable, which it wasn't the way I had it and still isn't.  (On the other hand, I'm the one person in the world who doesn't have any reason to read it.)  Anyhow, thanks much for your prompt attention to it, and I leave it in your capable hands, to tinker with further or not as the spirit moves you. -- k kay 00:24, 2 August 2007 (CDT)


:PNG images appear that way in IE6.   —[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] [[User talk:Stephen Ewen|(Talk)]] 00:55, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
The Universe is always in flux -- some are leaving, some are coming.  Hope that all goes well.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 18:53, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
:CZ is cooler when you are here. Welcome back!--[[User:Domergue Sumien|Domergue Sumien]] 11:01, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, welcome back, and warmly so! --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 11:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks, everyone! [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 06:23, 29 August 2011 (UTC)


Only sometimes -- they were already PNG images when I posted them, and I could see them then but spreading too wide across the page for me to read the article text.  From the discussion about the CZ logo, it seems to have to do with filling with transparent instead of a color, and Larry Sanger observed that a large percentage of users are using the older versions, and he was the one who figured out what to do so I could see it again. -- k kay 01:49, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
== Returning to Citizendium ==
:What did he suggest because i note that the main page is still using a transparent version. Should we not be uploading transparent PNG's? [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 02:04, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
It was on 'Talk: Main Page' on 23 & 24 July; you can get to that part of that page thru my contributions. -- k kay 02:49, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
:Thanks, I'll check, I must have missed it first time. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 02:50, 2 August 2007 (CDT)


::This page looks okay in Firefox and IE7. Not sure what to do here, except put them one underneath the other. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 03:43, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
Your message to inactive users is well worded and very encouraging. I think the link to their contributions is a nice touch. Good job! [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 13:25, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks. Actually, thanks to you they will see a lot of edits in the 'recent changes' list specific to each workgroup.


I didn't do nuthin'.  I just uploaded the older, working logo. I have no idea why it was working and why the new one isn't. What I do know is that we cannot have PNGs appearing black to large percentages of our users, no matter how much contempt we might personally have for outdated versions of IE (no offense to users thereof). --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 05:10, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
:I think I've done over 140 people now, about a third of the absent editors (all Natural Sciences workgroups, plus Engineering). So far not much luck coaxing many people back, but I have tried the 'hook' of pointing out that they have public bios here that they might at least like to update. I have personalised the template I've been using to point to the workgroups of which they are members... this takes quite a bit of time and ideally is something a robot should do, but we don't see many robots around here these days. There are certainly people labelled 'inactive' who have been editing in the last few months; this could be fixed by a robot, but I lack the technical skill to run one. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 14:43, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


== Martial Arts In Culture of Japan ==
::That is something I have seen working with the "[http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages Special Pages]" - in some cases the lists are not updating on anything like a regular basis. Maybe there is a central problem to do with CZ statistics not updating regularly - sounds like one for the tech team. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 14:51, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


Sure thing, I'll get on writing something for the Culture of Japan. I think I'll write about martial arts in Japanese culture, as judo is just part of it, along with sumo, karate, samurai culture etc. I'm not sure I can place everything in perfect context, as I'm not a resident of Japan, but perhaps somebody else can check on that later. [[User:Andrew Chong|Andrew Chong]] 03:05, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
== Helping to understand Japanese phrases ==
:Ok, I've added a [[martial arts section|Culture_of_Japan#Martial_arts]] if you want to check it out. There's still some overlap between the martial arts and sports sections, and I'm not quite sure yet how to deal with that. [[User:Andrew Chong|Andrew Chong]] 08:15, 2 August 2007 (CDT)


== [[Samantha Smith]] newspaper scan ==
"このときの歩行速度は時速0.5km にも満たない"


Should i email the newspaper it was from (The Boston Globe)?
Hello. I tried really hard to find out what the walking speed of the E0 prototype was. I'm afraid that the sentence above states "at the time it was really difficult to reach 0.5km/h" rather than saying "E0 walked at 0.5km/h." Do you know what it means? Thank you. ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 03:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC))
Would they really be concerned about a scan of a 22 year old page?
:My Japanese is really not very good, but I think it means 'At this time, the walking speed was less then 0.5km per hour'. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 13:56, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
It should qualify under the United States ''Fair Use'' law and the Australian ''Fair Dealing'' one. [[User:Paul Austin|Paul Austin]] 21:07, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
::Yes, the walking speed "did not reach 0.5km/h". --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 14:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
:::Thank you. ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 13:10, 7 December 2011 (UTC))


:I followed up on this, see [[User_talk:Paul_Austin#Samantha_Smith_photo]] for explanation.   —[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] [[User talk:Stephen Ewen|(Talk)]] 03:22, 5 August 2007 (CDT)
== EC ==


== Martial arts ==
Hey John, I have nominated you for the EC election. I don't think there is any mechanism for you to know that without research or me telling you so here I am. You have a good overview of CZ past and present and some good ideas about its future so I hope you will consider accepting the nomination. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 09:20, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
:Thank you and I will certainly take the nomination very seriously. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 05:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


Thanks, it seemed like Citizendium could use some good articles on the martial arts. Actually, the pitiful state of martial arts articles on Wikipedia and the petty squabbling and plain incorrect views that accompanied those articles are really what set me off to look for an alternative to Wikipedia and led me to stumble upon Citizendium. I'm really hoping things will be different here.
== Referenda ==


As for the martial arts page, I've been working on an article for a day or two and will put it up soon as a rough outline. I'm not quite sure what category to put it in, though, and I think it might deserve a category of its own. Currently, it falls under sports, but not all martial arts are sports, and some absolutely reject the idea of being defined as such. In addition, should the article be for "martial art" or "martial arts"? I couldn't find any policy on the matter. [[User:Andrew Chong|Andrew Chong]] 22:23, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
Should the discussion be [[CZ_Talk:Referenda_(Citizen-Initiated)#Voting|here]] or [[CZ_Talk:Referenda_(Citizen-Initiated)/Elections#Electoral system|there]]? [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 13:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
:What about on the Talk pages for the referenda subpages? [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 14:20, 6 December 2011 (UTC)


:Just to update you, I've added a rough version of [[martial arts]]. Hopefully, more people will join in, as even writing the parts that I did has proven to be a rather tasking endeavor. [[User:Andrew Chong|Andrew Chong]] 00:51, 5 August 2007 (CDT)
::Suits me! [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 08:40, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


== Thank you! ==


== C (Programming language) Article ==
Indeed. I've been in college so things were busy. Time flies and I have a semester left to graduate. Hope I will have more time soon to edit this encyclopedia. [[User:Yi Zhe Wu|Yi Zhe Wu]] 05:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


Hi John, I see you made a few changes on the [[C]] article. Please can you check the [[Talk:C]] page and tell me what you think of the points I raised there. I want to make the changes I suggested but wanted some other opinions before going ahead. As intimated in my submission, I don't think the [[C]] article should be in the computers workgroup as it should refer to the alphabet letter and the article for the programming language C should be at [[C (Programming language)]] as it has been done on Wikipedia (see talk page for links). Thanks
== Messed up adding quotes to Welcome Page ==


John, I tried adding quotes #s 50 & 51 to Welcome Page, but somehow messed up, as Welcome Page now shows no quotes.


== [[Gay community]] ==
Will you rectify, and explain what I did wrong.
John - thanks so much for the vote and the kind words. I had rush written it and almost fell over when I read it was nominated! I have been on the road all week, without checking in here at all. Am going back to it now to look at adding some citations that I think it really needs. Thanks again. --[[User:Ian Johnson|Ian Johnson]] 07:18, 11 August 2007 (CDT)


== Your edit on [[Gaius Iulius Caesar (name)]] ==
Thanks. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 19:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi John, I see you've removed the linguistics category from the article and the metadata pages. First, I have no problem with this article being in the Classics workgroup only. But one question: do aspects of historical linguistics (incl. philological methods) and etymology of ancient words (Latin, Greek, PIE etc.) not belong into the linguistics group as well? Or do we have a CZ-policy to include only articles dealing with contemporary (= "non-historical") linguistics in the that workgroup? I know that modern linguistics don't really emphasize the historical approaches anymore in many countries, but to my mind that's a bit insular. Cheers, <span style="border: 3px solid #90ade3;">[[User:Arne Eickenberg|<span style="background: #bad1fb; color: #000000;">&nbsp;Arne Eickenberg&nbsp;</span>]][[User_talk:Arne Eickenberg|<span style="background: #90ade3; color: #FFFFFF;">&nbsp;talk</span>]]</span> 06:59, 12 August 2007 (CDT)


==[[Butler]]==
:There were some 'nowiki' tags next to the 'mod' value. Fixed now. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 00:19, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Butler is ready for approval.  As I have been involved as an author, would you do the honors?  I'll also ask Anton--whoever gets it first. :-) &nbsp;&mdash;[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Stephen Ewen|(Talk)]] 23:49, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
:Ah, out-manoeuvred. :-)


==Nomination==
::Thanks, John.  I saw the tags, but gave them no attention, possibly because quotes had been appearing before I opened the editor to add my quotes.  It's a mystery to me how and when those tags got there.  [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 16:15, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


Many thanks!


[[User:Lee R. Berger|Lee R. Berger]] 06:51, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
==Pompeii==
Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for adding related articles to the Pompeii page. That's one less thing to do! [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] 12:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
:No problem. :) [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 11:27, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


==Delete==
Hi, could you do a quick delete of a page for me? It is http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/History_of_Economic_Thought


Many thanks in advance --[[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 18:19, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
== Picture of George Fox ==
:Done. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 18:23, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
It would be really helpful to know the provenance of the picture of George Fox. I have developed the stub article on him, but am reluctant to add the picture without knowing more about it.  It appears to be an imaginative reconstruction rather than derived from an actual portrait. The latest biographer of Fox (Larry Ingle) is reduced to using a "supposed" portrait extracted from a caricature of a Quaker meeting (as evidenced in a book by Rosemary Moore).  The picture you have provided could conceivably have been constructed as a younger version of that image.  --[[User:Martin Wyatt|Martin Wyatt]] 19:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 
::Thanks! I have moved another page into it now.--[[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 19:10, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
 
==[[Applied linguistics]]==
 
Hi John,
 
The article Applied linguistics was graded as not underlinked. I did not notice any footnotes at all. What was the reasoning behind this decision? --[[User:Thomas Simmons|Thomas Simmons]] 21:08, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:'Underlinked' means lack of wiki links like [[Applied linguistics|this]], not lack of footnotes. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 21:12, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
 
 
== Countries of the World ==
John, I saw that you made some edits on the above article. I am not happy with the formulation of "country" there, and am thinking to change the whole article, along the lines of my older proposal which nobody ever commented on [linked from the Talk page]. If you have any thoughts on this, please comment there or email me or something. In particular, we need to structure different legal forms of territory -- perhaps with subpages? -- and add some more important variables and possibly delete some of the eixsting ones. Thanks for any help yo ucan give. --[[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 05:44, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Nomination & Question ==
 
Hello, thank you for your quick answer (for creating my acount) !
I have a question about merging articles : I didn't find any documentation about merging articles, that could be useful sometimes. For example, no need to have "web server" and "webserver" ! Where can I find information about that ? Thank you !
Regards. (written by [[User:Jean_Gebarowski|Jean Gebarowski]], 24th October 2007)
 
== Naming ==
 
Ok, sound like I have to add the result of the discussion at the [[CZ:Biology_Workgroup#Tree-of-life_subgroup|biology workpage]] also to the naming page. [[User:Kim van der Linde|Kim van der Linde]] 21:56, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== There's a party going on... ==
 
John, can I prevail upon you to put a November write-a-thon notice on the main page?  Thanks!  [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 21:13, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 10:41, 9 March 2015



Welcome back!

The Universe is always in flux -- some are leaving, some are coming. Hope that all goes well.... Hayford Peirce 18:53, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

CZ is cooler when you are here. Welcome back!--Domergue Sumien 11:01, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes, welcome back, and warmly so! --Daniel Mietchen 11:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, everyone! John Stephenson 06:23, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Returning to Citizendium

Your message to inactive users is well worded and very encouraging. I think the link to their contributions is a nice touch. Good job! David Finn 13:25, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Actually, thanks to you they will see a lot of edits in the 'recent changes' list specific to each workgroup.
I think I've done over 140 people now, about a third of the absent editors (all Natural Sciences workgroups, plus Engineering). So far not much luck coaxing many people back, but I have tried the 'hook' of pointing out that they have public bios here that they might at least like to update. I have personalised the template I've been using to point to the workgroups of which they are members... this takes quite a bit of time and ideally is something a robot should do, but we don't see many robots around here these days. There are certainly people labelled 'inactive' who have been editing in the last few months; this could be fixed by a robot, but I lack the technical skill to run one. John Stephenson 14:43, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
That is something I have seen working with the "Special Pages" - in some cases the lists are not updating on anything like a regular basis. Maybe there is a central problem to do with CZ statistics not updating regularly - sounds like one for the tech team. David Finn 14:51, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Helping to understand Japanese phrases

"このときの歩行速度は時速0.5km にも満たない"

Hello. I tried really hard to find out what the walking speed of the E0 prototype was. I'm afraid that the sentence above states "at the time it was really difficult to reach 0.5km/h" rather than saying "E0 walked at 0.5km/h." Do you know what it means? Thank you. (Chunbum Park 03:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC))

My Japanese is really not very good, but I think it means 'At this time, the walking speed was less then 0.5km per hour'. John Stephenson 13:56, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Yes, the walking speed "did not reach 0.5km/h". --Daniel Mietchen 14:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. (Chunbum Park 13:10, 7 December 2011 (UTC))

EC

Hey John, I have nominated you for the EC election. I don't think there is any mechanism for you to know that without research or me telling you so here I am. You have a good overview of CZ past and present and some good ideas about its future so I hope you will consider accepting the nomination. David Finn 09:20, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you and I will certainly take the nomination very seriously. John Stephenson 05:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Referenda

Should the discussion be here or there? David Finn 13:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

What about on the Talk pages for the referenda subpages? John Stephenson 14:20, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Suits me! David Finn 08:40, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!

Indeed. I've been in college so things were busy. Time flies and I have a semester left to graduate. Hope I will have more time soon to edit this encyclopedia. Yi Zhe Wu 05:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Messed up adding quotes to Welcome Page

John, I tried adding quotes #s 50 & 51 to Welcome Page, but somehow messed up, as Welcome Page now shows no quotes.

Will you rectify, and explain what I did wrong.

Thanks. Anthony.Sebastian 19:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

There were some 'nowiki' tags next to the 'mod' value. Fixed now. John Stephenson 00:19, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, John. I saw the tags, but gave them no attention, possibly because quotes had been appearing before I opened the editor to add my quotes. It's a mystery to me how and when those tags got there. Anthony.Sebastian 16:15, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


Pompeii

Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for adding related articles to the Pompeii page. That's one less thing to do! Richard Nevell 12:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

No problem. :) John Stephenson 11:27, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


Picture of George Fox

It would be really helpful to know the provenance of the picture of George Fox. I have developed the stub article on him, but am reluctant to add the picture without knowing more about it. It appears to be an imaginative reconstruction rather than derived from an actual portrait. The latest biographer of Fox (Larry Ingle) is reduced to using a "supposed" portrait extracted from a caricature of a Quaker meeting (as evidenced in a book by Rosemary Moore). The picture you have provided could conceivably have been constructed as a younger version of that image. --Martin Wyatt 19:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

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