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== Should this article be deleted? ==
[[User:John Leach]] [https://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dennis_Blair&diff=next&oldid=942581 proposed deleting] this article on 2024-04-08, without, however offering any explanation as to the concerns that triggered the deletion proposal
A third party might guess he proposed deleting it because:
# It hadn't been edited since 2011-02-08, and was out of date...
# It was unreferenced...
# It was entirely the work of Howard Berkowitz, and, although he was a trusted editor, at the time, experience has shown the quality of his work could be extremely uneven.
Well...
# I have made some work towards bringing it up to date.  [[Director of National Intelligence|DNI]] is, I believe, a cabinet level position, so I don't think anyone could reasonably claim Blair wasn't an important enough figure to justify an article.
# I've supplied a few references, and I have more lined up.
# Yes, Howard's work could be uneven.  There are a few articles he wrote, on important individuals that are so biased they are worse than useless.  Other articles, like his article on '''[https://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Artillery&oldid=475690 Artillery]''', were fine, shorter, but arguably better, than the current Wikipedia version.  The current wikipedia version's value is marred by ''too many cooks''.  <p>Note, the '''[https://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Artillery&diff=941884&oldid=941883 stub version]''' that recently replaced Howard's version is deeply, deeply inadequate, because it seems to have been written by someone who was not aware that ancient catapults, trebochets, and horse drawn crossbows, ''were'' artilley.  [[User:George Swan|George Swan]] ([[User talk:George Swan|talk]]) 21:31, 20 April 2024 (CDT)

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Should this article be deleted?

A deletion proposal was placed on this article on 2024-04-08, without, however offering any explanation as to the concerns that triggered it.

A third party might guess it was one or more of the following... because:

  1. It hadn't been edited since 2011, and was out of date...
  2. It was unreferenced...
  3. It was entirely the work of Howard Berkowitz, and, although he was a trusted editor, at the time, experience has shown the quality of his work could be extremely uneven.

Well, should this article be deleted?

I don't think so.

  1. I have made some work towards bringing it up to date. DNI is, I believe, a cabinet level position, so I don't think anyone could reasonably claim Blair was an important enough figure to justify an article.
  2. I've supplied a few references, and I have more lined up.
  3. Yes, Howard's work could be uneven. There are a few articles he wrote, on important individuals, like Ahmed Khadr, that are so biased they are worse than useless. Other articles, like his article on Artillery, were fine. Howard's Artillery was shorter, but, arguably better, than the current Wikipedia version. The current wikipedia version's value is marred by too many cooks. Note, the stub version that recently replaced Howard's version is deeply inadequate, because it seems to have been written by someone who was not aware that ancient catapults, trebochets, and horse drawn crossbows, were artillery.

In General I would argue against strongly deleting material merely because Howard wrote it.

Candidly, George Swan (talk) 14:51, 17 April 2024 (CDT)

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  1. ↑ Mazzetti, Mark (2008-11-22). Dennis C. Blair.
  2. ↑ Shane, Scott (2009-01-22). Blair Pledges New Approach to Counterterrorism.
  3. ↑ Mr. Blair’s Departure as Intelligence Director (2010-05-22).
  4. ↑ Baker, Peter (2009-04-22). Banned Techniques Yielded ‘High Value Information,’ Memo Says.
  5. ↑ Mazzetti, Mark (2008-12-20). Likely Pick for Intelligence Chief Would Face Task of Corralling Fractious Agencies.
  6. ↑ Blair, Dennis C. (2022-02-22). Ukraine’s Russia Crisis Reveals the West’s False Sense of Energy Security.
  7. ↑ Schmitt, Eric (2002-01-30). A NATION CHALLENGED: ASIAN ARENA; Hurdle Leapt, U.S. Will Help Philippines Battle Rebels.
  8. ↑ Text: Statement of Dennis C. Blair (2009-01-22).
  9. ↑ Mazzetti, Mark (2010-05-21). Facing a Rift, U.S. Spy Chief to Step Down.
  10. ↑ U.S. Commander Urges Security Role for China (1999-05-24).
  11. ↑ Admiral to Seek Pledge on Abuses and Refugees : U.S. on Path to Restoring Military Ties to Indonesia (2000-04-01).
  12. ↑ Asia-Pacific Military Cooperation Is a Good Work in Progress (2000-12-08).
  13. ↑ Mazzetti, Mark (2008-11-21). Obama's likely pick for intelligence chief would face fractious agencies.
  14. ↑ Mazzetti, Mark (2008-11-21). New U.S. spy chief would face fractious agencies.
  15. ↑ Mazzetti, Mark (2009-06-08). Turf Battles on Intelligence Pose Test for Spy Chiefs.
  16. ↑ Supply Carriers Are Vulnerable in Strait of Malacca, Admiral Says : U.S. Escorts Ships to the War Zone (2001-12-03).
  17. ↑ Supply Carriers Are Vulnerable in Strait of Malacca, Admiral Says : U.S. Escorts Ships to the War Zone (2001-12-03).
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