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Phaedrus page written that is basically a glorified stub containing a very basic summary of the Phaedrus dialogue. As such, although as yet lacking citations, notes, images, and other congenial embellishments that might raise its level of professionalism, the present content provides a basic skeleton from which to begin. -- [[Maria Cuervo]] 1 April 2011 23:40:00
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The Phaedrus stub page created containing basic summary of the dialogue. --[[User:Maria Cuervo|Maria Cuervo]] 03:52, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 
This should link to the Phaedrus character in ''Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance]. It has been some time since I reread that, and I'm oversimplifying, but Pirsig's basic line is that Western society has been screwed up in some ways since Plato and Phaedrus was the last guy who had it right. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 10:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 
:::I would say that is not very Platonic of Pirsig. Plato: Lately that haters of Plato have given him a new outfit but the bash Plato theme party begins with Nietzsche in Birth of Tragedy.
 
== Not quite CZ formatting ==
 
Hi Maria, glad to see that you're still at work on this!  I do think though, that the
 
<blockquote>Phaedrus, Φαῖδρος; Phaedrus is the Latin form of the name, which would be transcribed as Phaidros from Greek; it has long been customary in the West to use Latin forms of classical Greek names.</blockquote>
 
up at the very top should be moved somewhere else, either as part of the main text or as a footnote or something. Over the years, I think that a few people have tried to put in similar items that don't meet our standard formatting policies and we have always had those items moved or modified.  Basically, the very first line of any CZ article should always be "The '''So-and-So''' is the last word in nouvelle cuisine" or whatnot. I'd move it myself except you probably have a better idea than I about where it would fit in the best. Thanks! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 00:48, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Hayford, I'll fix it, probably in the next few minutes. I understand the issue, I think, and I agree it is a bit awkward.
I personally subscribe to the idea that writing itself does not fit/nor needs to fit a particular format, for example, Faulkner; but since Citizendium does indeed have (and should) a standard, I think I should follow it here.
 
 
Oh, That bit that offended is gone but for the life of me I cannot 'find' where it now is...so although I would like to put in a footnote I have yet not discovered it, although still searching.....--[[User:Maria Cuervo|Maria Cuervo]] 01:49, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:When something like that happens, all you have to do is go to the History tab, open it up, then go down to an earlier version and find it there.  Here it is:
 
::Phaedrus, Φαῖδρος; Phaedrus is the Latin form of the name, which would be transcribed as Phaidros from Greek; it has long been customary in the West to use Latin forms of classical Greek names. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 01:59, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:: Thank you!!! I'll be fixing this asap. I was just distracted, looking at my [[The German Ideology]] page and other things I have contributed....but I will deal with this immediately!

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Page created The Phaedrus stub page created containing basic summary of the dialogue. --Maria Cuervo 03:52, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

This should link to the Phaedrus character in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance [1]. It has been some time since I reread that, and I'm oversimplifying, but Pirsig's basic line is that Western society has been screwed up in some ways since Plato and Phaedrus was the last guy who had it right. Sandy Harris 10:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I would say that is not very Platonic of Pirsig. Plato: Lately that haters of Plato have given him a new outfit but the bash Plato theme party begins with Nietzsche in Birth of Tragedy.

Not quite CZ formatting

Hi Maria, glad to see that you're still at work on this! I do think though, that the

Phaedrus, Φαῖδρος; Phaedrus is the Latin form of the name, which would be transcribed as Phaidros from Greek; it has long been customary in the West to use Latin forms of classical Greek names.

up at the very top should be moved somewhere else, either as part of the main text or as a footnote or something. Over the years, I think that a few people have tried to put in similar items that don't meet our standard formatting policies and we have always had those items moved or modified. Basically, the very first line of any CZ article should always be "The So-and-So is the last word in nouvelle cuisine" or whatnot. I'd move it myself except you probably have a better idea than I about where it would fit in the best. Thanks! Hayford Peirce 00:48, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


Hayford, I'll fix it, probably in the next few minutes. I understand the issue, I think, and I agree it is a bit awkward. I personally subscribe to the idea that writing itself does not fit/nor needs to fit a particular format, for example, Faulkner; but since Citizendium does indeed have (and should) a standard, I think I should follow it here.


Oh, That bit that offended is gone but for the life of me I cannot 'find' where it now is...so although I would like to put in a footnote I have yet not discovered it, although still searching.....--Maria Cuervo 01:49, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

When something like that happens, all you have to do is go to the History tab, open it up, then go down to an earlier version and find it there. Here it is:
Phaedrus, Φαῖδρος; Phaedrus is the Latin form of the name, which would be transcribed as Phaidros from Greek; it has long been customary in the West to use Latin forms of classical Greek names. Hayford Peirce 01:59, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you!!! I'll be fixing this asap. I was just distracted, looking at my The German Ideology page and other things I have contributed....but I will deal with this immediately!