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Eventually, the list of works probably should move to a bibliography or catalog subpage. The main article should address a general view of Lieber's personality, personal history and style. Comparisons with contemporaries, as well as those he influenced, are relevant, as is responsible criticism. You might want to look at the structure of [[Robert A. Heinlein]]. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 07:22, 30 April 2010 (UTC) | Eventually, the list of works probably should move to a bibliography or catalog subpage. The main article should address a general view of Lieber's personality, personal history and style. Comparisons with contemporaries, as well as those he influenced, are relevant, as is responsible criticism. You might want to look at the structure of [[Robert A. Heinlein]]. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 07:22, 30 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
:I disagree with Howard about this point. I myself have written a number of articles about authors and I feel it is important that readers have access to his works on the immediate page, not in separate bibliographies -- the reader is interested in the guy's '''books''' -- why not have them right in front of him? See [[Donald Hamilton]], [[Richard Condon]], [[Michael Z. Lewin]], and [[Michael Gilbert]] among others. I haven't paid much attention to the Heinlein article since I didn't originate it. At some point we're going to have to have a *standard* approach to this for *all* articles about authors, and I will *vigorously* defend my own point of view on this. | |||
:In any case, it's nice to see another contributor with an interest in science-fiction! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 17:50, 30 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Another approach, while it's about a core character rather than an author, is in [[Honor Harrington]], where the books and stories are contextualized in a table about character development. I'll do more of the individual books if people are interested. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:07, 30 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
::: Feel free to take this article in any direction you want. I'm a lists-and-bullets man, if anyone wants to add paragraphs of talk they can. Bibliography on the front page or not - take it as it comes, but bear in mind it's going to be fairly big. | |||
:::I also intend to open a page on Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, for no reason but that I'm just coming to the end of re-reading them and it would be opportune to document them at this point. --[[User:Matthew Simon Quartermain|Matthew Simon Quartermain]] 22:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Gray Mauser Award == | |||
I was at [[Poul Anderson]]'s once and saw a framed Luger or some such hanging on one of his walls. "What's that?" "Oh, that's the Gray (Grey) Mauser Award someone or other gave me for something or other." The only reference I can find is at http://history.westkingdom.org/AHP/AnnotatedHistoryOfTheWest.pdf, put I ain't about to scroll through 400 pages to find the exact reference.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 21:52, 30 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
: Excellent. I know nothing about this (I don't rub shoulders with many authors, I have more contacts in maths and rock music) so feel free to carry on digging. I'll take time to look through AHP when I have a moment. --[[User:Matthew Simon Quartermain|Matthew Simon Quartermain]] 22:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:10, 30 April 2010
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Eventually, the list of works probably should move to a bibliography or catalog subpage. The main article should address a general view of Lieber's personality, personal history and style. Comparisons with contemporaries, as well as those he influenced, are relevant, as is responsible criticism. You might want to look at the structure of Robert A. Heinlein. Howard C. Berkowitz 07:22, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- I disagree with Howard about this point. I myself have written a number of articles about authors and I feel it is important that readers have access to his works on the immediate page, not in separate bibliographies -- the reader is interested in the guy's books -- why not have them right in front of him? See Donald Hamilton, Richard Condon, Michael Z. Lewin, and Michael Gilbert among others. I haven't paid much attention to the Heinlein article since I didn't originate it. At some point we're going to have to have a *standard* approach to this for *all* articles about authors, and I will *vigorously* defend my own point of view on this.
- In any case, it's nice to see another contributor with an interest in science-fiction! Hayford Peirce 17:50, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Another approach, while it's about a core character rather than an author, is in Honor Harrington, where the books and stories are contextualized in a table about character development. I'll do more of the individual books if people are interested. Howard C. Berkowitz 18:07, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Feel free to take this article in any direction you want. I'm a lists-and-bullets man, if anyone wants to add paragraphs of talk they can. Bibliography on the front page or not - take it as it comes, but bear in mind it's going to be fairly big.
- I also intend to open a page on Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, for no reason but that I'm just coming to the end of re-reading them and it would be opportune to document them at this point. --Matthew Simon Quartermain 22:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Gray Mauser Award
I was at Poul Anderson's once and saw a framed Luger or some such hanging on one of his walls. "What's that?" "Oh, that's the Gray (Grey) Mauser Award someone or other gave me for something or other." The only reference I can find is at http://history.westkingdom.org/AHP/AnnotatedHistoryOfTheWest.pdf, put I ain't about to scroll through 400 pages to find the exact reference.... Hayford Peirce 21:52, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Excellent. I know nothing about this (I don't rub shoulders with many authors, I have more contacts in maths and rock music) so feel free to carry on digging. I'll take time to look through AHP when I have a moment. --Matthew Simon Quartermain 22:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC)