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:I've looked through the article and I'm totally baffled by the request for a delete. I *suppose* that the entire article could be an elaborate April Fool's joke, that no one named Chase Osborn ever existed, but I'll now do a Google and see if this is the case -- nope, there are 19,000 hits for him, and I gleaned that he was indeed a Mich. governor. Geez, if *this* article were to be deleted, there must be a thousand or more *other* articles in CZ that could be deleted. Moreover, are there *two* Russell Joneses here at CZ? One of them apparently *wrote* the article -- and the other one wants to *delete* it? This whole thing certainly seems bizarre. Speaking as a member of the Editorial Council, I think one of our CZ principles is that CZ material is here for good once it's written and unless it has *terrible* flaws. And it's certainly been *long* established that the author of an article can't delete his own material 100% just because he wrote it. What am I missing here? [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 20:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC) | :I've looked through the article and I'm totally baffled by the request for a delete. I *suppose* that the entire article could be an elaborate April Fool's joke, that no one named Chase Osborn ever existed, but I'll now do a Google and see if this is the case -- nope, there are 19,000 hits for him, and I gleaned that he was indeed a Mich. governor. Geez, if *this* article were to be deleted, there must be a thousand or more *other* articles in CZ that could be deleted. Moreover, are there *two* Russell Joneses here at CZ? One of them apparently *wrote* the article -- and the other one wants to *delete* it? This whole thing certainly seems bizarre. Speaking as a member of the Editorial Council, I think one of our CZ principles is that CZ material is here for good once it's written and unless it has *terrible* flaws. And it's certainly been *long* established that the author of an article can't delete his own material 100% just because he wrote it. What am I missing here? [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 20:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC) | ||
::Well, Russell (who is virtually the only author of the article, and also an editor in the relevant workgroup) has noted that there are no references, and that there is original research in the article (presumably his). But as no one else is working on the article, I have, however, volunteered to inspect whatever sources I can access -- the libraries in California aren't exactly loaded with info on Osborn, but I do have e-access to some apparently authoritative sources from Michigan -- and footnote those, while deleting the rest, thereby perhaps eliminating the problem. Would that be OK? But, as Russell is a relevant Editor, with more expertise in the discipline of history than you or I, presumably his writ should run if he really wants it deleted, no? [[User:Bruce M. Tindall|Bruce M. Tindall]] 00:38, 5 April 2011 (UTC) |
Revision as of 18:38, 4 April 2011
Started and Done?
Okay, I've shot my bolt on Osborn here. I can't think of anything more that needs to be added. The article needs some formatting and copy-editing. But I can't think of any more content to add. You? Russell D. Jones 02:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
On the deletion request
The EC regulation on inclusion policy does not authorize speedy deletes. It requires four weeks during that the request can be contested.
What is the problem with this article? It seems to be informative enough, even compared to the WP article. --Peter Schmitt 17:11, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Russell, as I see you classified the article a 1 = developed -- hardly a candidate for deletion. --Peter Schmitt 17:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've looked through the article and I'm totally baffled by the request for a delete. I *suppose* that the entire article could be an elaborate April Fool's joke, that no one named Chase Osborn ever existed, but I'll now do a Google and see if this is the case -- nope, there are 19,000 hits for him, and I gleaned that he was indeed a Mich. governor. Geez, if *this* article were to be deleted, there must be a thousand or more *other* articles in CZ that could be deleted. Moreover, are there *two* Russell Joneses here at CZ? One of them apparently *wrote* the article -- and the other one wants to *delete* it? This whole thing certainly seems bizarre. Speaking as a member of the Editorial Council, I think one of our CZ principles is that CZ material is here for good once it's written and unless it has *terrible* flaws. And it's certainly been *long* established that the author of an article can't delete his own material 100% just because he wrote it. What am I missing here? Hayford Peirce 20:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, Russell (who is virtually the only author of the article, and also an editor in the relevant workgroup) has noted that there are no references, and that there is original research in the article (presumably his). But as no one else is working on the article, I have, however, volunteered to inspect whatever sources I can access -- the libraries in California aren't exactly loaded with info on Osborn, but I do have e-access to some apparently authoritative sources from Michigan -- and footnote those, while deleting the rest, thereby perhaps eliminating the problem. Would that be OK? But, as Russell is a relevant Editor, with more expertise in the discipline of history than you or I, presumably his writ should run if he really wants it deleted, no? Bruce M. Tindall 00:38, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
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