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::Yeah, I appreciate the desire to get the title of the article in the first sentence. (And upon reflection, the title "Letters of Abelard and Heloise" might fit better with CZ naming conventions; if anyone wants to move the page, it's fine by me) If anyone wants to have a go at rewriting the first sentence, that's perfectly alright by me (and I can help with factual stuff). The only thing is that the 'Correspondence of A & H' or 'Letters of A & H' isn't really a technical term, it's just a phrase which refers to this well-known group of letters. Because of that, it seems weird to start the article with an explanation of the phrase, and difficult to fit the title of the article in the first sentence. [[User:Brian P. Long|Brian P. Long]] 12:25, 17 February 2008 (CST)
::Yeah, I appreciate the desire to get the title of the article in the first sentence. (And upon reflection, the title "Letters of Abelard and Heloise" might fit better with CZ naming conventions; if anyone wants to move the page, it's fine by me) If anyone wants to have a go at rewriting the first sentence, that's perfectly alright by me (and I can help with factual stuff). The only thing is that the 'Correspondence of A & H' or 'Letters of A & H' isn't really a technical term, it's just a phrase which refers to this well-known group of letters. Because of that, it seems weird to start the article with an explanation of the phrase, and difficult to fit the title of the article in the first sentence. [[User:Brian P. Long|Brian P. Long]] 12:25, 17 February 2008 (CST)
:::I've long forgotten whatever I once knew about this celebrated couple, but isn't the easy answer simply to Move everything to [[Abelard and Heloise]] (or [[Heloise and Abelard]]), and then put the correspondence stuff into the article?  I think that most searches for their writings will merely begin with "+Abelard +Heloise" or something similar. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 12:38, 17 February 2008 (CST)

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The first sentence should be something like: "The Correspondence of Abelard and Heloise refers to the letters between John-Paul Abelard and his lover Heloise Smith over a period of years in 17th-century Italy...." or whatnot. "They are renowned because...." And so forth.

Or so I think -- I could easily be wrong.... Hayford Peirce 10:49, 17 February 2008 (CST)

Yeah, I appreciate the desire to get the title of the article in the first sentence. (And upon reflection, the title "Letters of Abelard and Heloise" might fit better with CZ naming conventions; if anyone wants to move the page, it's fine by me) If anyone wants to have a go at rewriting the first sentence, that's perfectly alright by me (and I can help with factual stuff). The only thing is that the 'Correspondence of A & H' or 'Letters of A & H' isn't really a technical term, it's just a phrase which refers to this well-known group of letters. Because of that, it seems weird to start the article with an explanation of the phrase, and difficult to fit the title of the article in the first sentence. Brian P. Long 12:25, 17 February 2008 (CST)
I've long forgotten whatever I once knew about this celebrated couple, but isn't the easy answer simply to Move everything to Abelard and Heloise (or Heloise and Abelard), and then put the correspondence stuff into the article? I think that most searches for their writings will merely begin with "+Abelard +Heloise" or something similar. Hayford Peirce 12:38, 17 February 2008 (CST)