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Please see [[:Image:Joe_louis1.jpg]] for how I corrected the data there, the copyright data and the image location, and kindly follow the model when such is the case with an image in the future. All images on CZ must be held to a very high standard of precise documentation, for obvious reasons. | Please see [[:Image:Joe_louis1.jpg]] for how I corrected the data there, the copyright data and the image location, and kindly follow the model when such is the case with an image in the future. All images on CZ must be held to a very high standard of precise documentation, for obvious reasons. | ||
Moreover, regarding [[:Image:Louis_medal.jpeg]], it is a false but common assumption that just because an image is hosted on a U.S. Government website that the image is public domain. Only works ''authored by'' the U.S. Government and hosted on their sites are automatically PD. In the case of this coin image, it is unlikely it is public domain and likely that the coin design was created by a private citizen from whom the Mint has obtained usage rights--and the info at the Mint site states a generic copyright claim. To use the image of the coin you will need to find exact data on the site about ''that'' coin's design being authored by the U.S. government and link to it, or make a fair use claim. I'd try the former, first; failing that, use {{Tl|Fairuse-author}}. | Moreover, regarding [[:Image:Louis_medal.jpeg]], it is a false but common assumption that just because an image is hosted on a U.S. Government website that the image is public domain )the data you uploaded to [[:Image:William_cannon.jpg]] even states that not all info on U.S. Gov sites are PD). Only works ''authored by'' the U.S. Government and hosted on their sites are automatically PD. In the case of this coin image, it is unlikely it is public domain and likely that the coin design was created by a private citizen from whom the Mint has obtained usage rights--and the info at the Mint site states a generic copyright claim. To use the image of the coin you will need to find exact data on the site about ''that'' coin's design being authored by the U.S. government and link to it, or make a fair use claim. I'd try the former, first; failing that, use {{Tl|Fairuse-author}}. | ||
Concerning [[:Image:William_cannon.jpg]], would you kindly link not to the image location ''on the server'' but to ''the context'' in which you found it? This is stated in the text at [[Special:Upload]], where it requires "*exact* data about where you got the image, usually a webpage such as http://www.acmemuseum.org/collections/history/sahara.html. People *must* be able to verify the data as found at the image's source." | |||
—[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] [[User talk:Stephen Ewen|(Talk)]] 01:23, 5 August 2007 (CDT) | —[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] [[User talk:Stephen Ewen|(Talk)]] 01:23, 5 August 2007 (CDT) | ||
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Good edit
Hi Todd That was an improvement to the Stonewall riots article introduction. It is nice to see another eye spot what one can miss from one's own close perspective.--Ian Johnson 18:14, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
Thanks for the kind words
Todd, thanks for the kind words. I'm just a bit demoralized because I'm running into the same editor and I'm running into the same problems. It's hard to say anything productive because I don't want it to be construed as a personal attack on anyone. I don't have a problem with anyone's politics or viewpoints. I just don't think some people fully appreciate the difference between a fact and an opinion. At this time, Citizendium doesn't have a way to handle that problem. Will Nesbitt 12:39, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
- I realize this. What I think you need to realize is that this project is very young, and now that some controversial topics have been created, it will put the current system to the test. My request to you is that you continue to stand up for what you believe in, and hopefully CZ can grow from this. Nothing ever worth achieving comes easy. :) --Todd Coles 13:32, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
Roolz
...is made to be broken! come run your mouth Aleta Curry 23:38, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
Beer
Thanks Todd, I had cut and pasted from an earlier article and, whilst I have it on reasonable authority that at least one of the ABBA members was a regular beer drinker, external links to the ABBA websites were most thankfully removed by you from Beer.
Now. Where are my glasses (spectacles type glasses I mean). Cheers! --Ian Johnson 12:29, 1 August 2007 (CDT)
External articles
Hi Todd, thanks for performing a much-needed service--putting checklists on all those unchecklisted articles. I just wanted to point out, however, that if an article came from Wikipedia, we've only removed templates, and we changed just a few piddling details otherwise, it is then External (status=4), regardless of how well developed the WP version might be. --Larry Sanger 09:55, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
- Ok, thanks, I was unaware of that. I will revisit the checklists I have already put on and correct that. --Todd Coles 09:57, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
Images
Please see Image:Joe_louis1.jpg for how I corrected the data there, the copyright data and the image location, and kindly follow the model when such is the case with an image in the future. All images on CZ must be held to a very high standard of precise documentation, for obvious reasons.
Moreover, regarding Image:Louis_medal.jpeg, it is a false but common assumption that just because an image is hosted on a U.S. Government website that the image is public domain )the data you uploaded to Image:William_cannon.jpg even states that not all info on U.S. Gov sites are PD). Only works authored by the U.S. Government and hosted on their sites are automatically PD. In the case of this coin image, it is unlikely it is public domain and likely that the coin design was created by a private citizen from whom the Mint has obtained usage rights--and the info at the Mint site states a generic copyright claim. To use the image of the coin you will need to find exact data on the site about that coin's design being authored by the U.S. government and link to it, or make a fair use claim. I'd try the former, first; failing that, use {{}}.
Concerning Image:William_cannon.jpg, would you kindly link not to the image location on the server but to the context in which you found it? This is stated in the text at Special:Upload, where it requires "*exact* data about where you got the image, usually a webpage such as http://www.acmemuseum.org/collections/history/sahara.html. People *must* be able to verify the data as found at the image's source."
—Stephen Ewen (Talk) 01:23, 5 August 2007 (CDT)