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I reverted much of [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Sue_Savage-Rumbaugh&diff=100575708&oldid=100213372 this edit] because it introduced one factual inaccuracy and, in my view, went too far in making a claim that non-human apes have true linguistic ability. In detail: (1) bonobos are not closer to us than common chimps - they are equally related to us; (2) the claim that Kanzi's use of the keyboard constitutes ''linguistic'' communication, not just communication, is disputed; (3) I don't think the controversy just boils down to different definitions of language and evolution because, for example, Savage-Rumbaugh works in different theoretical frameworks from mainstream linguists, e.g. behaviorism. I will try to fill in some gaps in the article. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 07:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC) | I reverted much of [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Sue_Savage-Rumbaugh&diff=100575708&oldid=100213372 this edit] because it introduced one factual inaccuracy and, in my view, went too far in making a claim that non-human apes have true linguistic ability. In detail: (1) bonobos are not closer to us than common chimps - they are equally related to us; (2) the claim that Kanzi's use of the keyboard constitutes ''linguistic'' communication, not just communication, is disputed; (3) I don't think the controversy just boils down to different definitions of language and evolution because, for example, Savage-Rumbaugh works in different theoretical frameworks from mainstream linguists, e.g. behaviorism. I will try to fill in some gaps in the article. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 07:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I have reverted part of your revert, addressing all three of your points and correcting the inaccuracy that he is no longer alive. Yes, please add more material, and I will see to do so too. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 08:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC) |
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Attribution
A note to point out that, although this article is from Wikipedia, I wrote the second paragraph there and the rest has been completely changed. See the Wikipedia history. John Stephenson 03:25, 24 April 2007 (CDT)
Partial revert
I reverted much of this edit because it introduced one factual inaccuracy and, in my view, went too far in making a claim that non-human apes have true linguistic ability. In detail: (1) bonobos are not closer to us than common chimps - they are equally related to us; (2) the claim that Kanzi's use of the keyboard constitutes linguistic communication, not just communication, is disputed; (3) I don't think the controversy just boils down to different definitions of language and evolution because, for example, Savage-Rumbaugh works in different theoretical frameworks from mainstream linguists, e.g. behaviorism. I will try to fill in some gaps in the article. John Stephenson 07:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- I have reverted part of your revert, addressing all three of your points and correcting the inaccuracy that he is no longer alive. Yes, please add more material, and I will see to do so too. --Daniel Mietchen 08:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
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